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Suggestions / Re: Class balance - expirience share

« on: June 17, 2024, 08:08:56 PM »

Ranger has always been a good dmg dealer in PVP but not in PVE..
Sorc is the same, but they have litteraly no defensive, their halt if 65% success.. if they miss one they're dead..

Archer is in a fine spot, the problem is somewhere else.

It is 75 atm and it has 45 cd time(I don't know its max cd is capped but it is not written) also don't forget that restrain still does not work in infernum. So if you don't get halted once you have 4.5 seconds to hit your debuffs and kill the sorc. So what I am trying to say archer can be countered witih very high damage or skills like halt etc. in infernum its a bit harder from old times to play. When you consider that there are classes that can 1 bar archer easily I think it needs to buffed. As it looks justac team does not want to bring huge nerfs to any class. Before the hh skills update ranger was not effective as it is right now also. Now it has also 35 m cast range so if there is a ranger it can make useless with its cd debuff and you cannot run away from it easily.

There is also other classes that can be 1bar, but still its not needed to boost them, because that would make a way more unbalanced game, archer is fine as it is, yes it became a bit more complicated to play it, at least now its not helpless and spam macro while running brainless gaming experience but it requires you to think and be careful on your moves

What needs to be worked on is the summoner having a great increase of damage due to the CD reduced on the HH skills, same for elem, those two had the highest damage output before but now since the HH skills are spammable it boosted their damage without actually giving them damage

Its now you need to hit cast slows + all debuffs it was still hard before but now its harder. You should also consider restrain is still not working. Other classes don't require hitting cast slows because they are not as paper as archer(Not sure about mage and sorc has halt). It was never hit helpless and then macro since the damage output has increased because you could just get 1 barred by some classes. We are not asking to turn it into a class which will 1 bar everyone. Now most of the classes can kill it with 4 skill hits without any debuff.

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Suggestions / Re: Class balance - expirience share

« on: June 17, 2024, 03:49:00 PM »

Ranger has always been a good dmg dealer in PVP but not in PVE..
Sorc is the same, but they have litteraly no defensive, their halt if 65% success.. if they miss one they're dead..

Archer is in a fine spot, the problem is somewhere else.

It is 75 atm and it has 45 cd time(I don't know its max cd is capped but it is not written) also don't forget that restrain still does not work in infernum. So if you don't get halted once you have 4.5 seconds to hit your debuffs and kill the sorc. So what I am trying to say archer can be countered witih very high damage or skills like halt etc. in infernum its a bit harder from old times to play. When you consider that there are classes that can 1 bar archer easily I think it needs to buffed. As it looks justac team does not want to bring huge nerfs to any class. Before the hh skills update ranger was not effective as it is right now also. Now it has also 35 m cast range so if there is a ranger it can make useless with its cd debuff and you cannot run away from it easily.

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Suggestions / Re: Class balance - expirience share

« on: June 17, 2024, 02:58:43 PM »

Archer is fine atm. They just need fix damage from sumoner and elementalis.

Ranger also hits around 4-5k without debuffs. Sorc also has halt and huge damage against archer atm its very hard to get in a position where you can kill them without taking very big risks.

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Suggestions / Re: Class balance - expirience share

« on: June 14, 2024, 04:58:51 PM »

Archer now requires skill to be played and it's not only about spamming a macro once your 100% debuff is in. The class is still in a very good spot, and even stronger now as it can support criters due to the 100% success block & dodge debuffs (which are in my opinion a complete mistake).

The problem doesn't come from archer being weak, it comes from other classes dealing more damages than they should if you compare their tankiness to yours as an archer. If they deal more damage than you, they should be as vulnerable as you are. That's the main issue at the moment in most cases.

That is what I am actually trying to say thank you.

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Suggestions / Re: Class balance - expirience share

« on: June 14, 2024, 04:14:31 PM »

What are you guys Taking ?

Archer actually does more damage than before but they qq that they dont deal enought damage

There are classes who can hit 6-7k without debuff to archer when you consider that archer is the class with lowest hp(I guess) and other defensive stats are not so high. Of course he can run away but in infernum if you get stuck you are dead. With the helpless change you need to hit your ele res debuffs with your slows at the same time. Also restrain does not work in infernum that is another disadvantage for archer. Archer is a bit off atm with selfbuff. I mean there are many counterplays against archer also like cd debuff, halt etc.

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Suggestions / Re: Class balance - expirience share

« on: June 13, 2024, 05:16:08 PM »

As an archer,
Against summoner, I don't have stand any  they hit 5-6k without debuffs and they can also debuff cooldown.
Against hunter, Its a one way matchup I don't have any kill chance only thing I can is to run.
Against sorc, Very hard one I need to hit my every debuff and slow without getting halted so I can kill him I don't get halted again.
Against orbiter, I can't kill if he is on full tank simply.
Against elem, I take really high damages without debuffs If elem is on full tank does not die easily.

Did not make any test against other classes but the last update hurt archer very badly.

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Tutorial / Ranger tutorial #Event

« on: August 23, 2022, 11:06:54 PM »

Hello everybody,


This is a tutorial for especially beginners, I will try to talk about every aspect of PVE and PVP with ranger and PVE part will also be separated to two parts as farm and leveling. If it is your first character in the
game ranger is a good way to start because you can farm some gold and then start your main character and sorry the for the grammar mistakes etc. Please feel free to ask questions and make comments.


PVE:

Farm:
Ranger is one of the best characters to farm on cf and uniques at desert(if the mobs 22 lv or higher otherwise archer might be a better choice) and note that at this part I am assuming that it is not your first character in the game
and you have some gold,items etc.
if its your first character you can directly jump into leveling part. It has good attack speed, high resistance you will not have any trouble with surviving. You can farm by using cast build or critical build but I
recommend you to use critical because it is more efficient because the mobs dont have very high hp and you can kill them very fast with critical. If you use cast build to farm  you will lose a lot of time to bring mobs
together and mobs will die very fast again you will spend more time to bring them together. It is not a very efficient way to farm. You should use bow as the weapon since the buff you learn for bow gives
you a lot of attack speed(+%40 at 10 rank). Try to find +2 rank armor hence you can have +10 rank with the uniques you will use and try to find a gloves with attack speed,critical damage and bonus drop rate and try to
find them low level so you can use it at any level. The items you will use does not have to be op you can put lv 3 prayer stones in them (You can check prayer stones part if you don't know which stone to put inside of your items).
Put x2 level 3 agility and lv1 ring spirit stones to your event ex baroms and put x2 lv 3 agility prayer stones and lv 1 wing into the event rings. Event gift also includes lv 1 wings and lv 1 ring spirit stones.
If you have a mouse which supports macro(Otherwise it is illegal) you can make a macro which presses Tab+3. Note that you should not be afk while your macro is on because if you get caught afk while your macro is on you will
be banned. If you do not know where to go to farm a unique you can check http://archlord.drwx.eu.



Before starting to this part I would to say that if you have good items and 2 excellent ohkeroses you can directly start leveling with cast build.

Leveling:
At 1 level go to event npc(red dragon in the starter village) and take your 1 level gifts. Until level 80 and you find 2 excellent ohkeros rings I recommend you to use critical build until that point because in most occasions you
will be farming gold,uniques etc. and you will not have very good items, you might struggle while casting. I recommend you to use this tutorial for leveling http://forum.justac.net/index.php?topic=771.0 it is a very basic tutorial.
You can jump barom-shuta farm because event will give intelligent shutas,excellent baroms and intelligent-excellent karkaen. Just make some gold and you can comeback to that part when the duration of your accessories end and  you have
some gold for refinery with a new character. If you have good items and enough gold just go level in bg straight away then go to level heaven's hell around 95 level and go to eclipse when you become 120-124 level. I recommend you to buy
Excellent ohkeros ring with minimum 2 slots and I will assume you have minimum 2 slots excellent ohkeros rings. I would like to add that casting with ranger is much faster than using critical if you are leveling especially as your level
gets higher.

Stones you should put inside your rings:
Crit build:
Excellent Baroms(Event): x2 Level 3 Agility prayer stones and level 1 ring spirit prayer stone(also given with event gifts)
Excellent Karkaen(Event): x1 Level 3 Agility prayer stone, level 1 elemental cloak and level 1 wings which you get from event gifts

Cast build:
First 80 level:
Intelligent shutas(Event):x2 Level 3 Stamina prayer stones and level 1 ring spirit prayer stone(also given with event gifts)
Intelligent Karkaen(Event): x1 Level 3 Agility prayer stone, level 1 elemental cloak and level 1 wings which you get from event gifts

After level 80:
Excellent Ohkeros 0/2:Level 6 Mana recovery and Level 4-6 ring spirit prayer stone put Ultimate jewel if you have 3 slots.
Excellent Ohkeros 0/2 (Other one):Ultimate jewel and Level 4-6 ring spirit prayer stone put Level 6 Stamina prayer stone if you have 3 slots.
Intelligent Karkaen 0/2(If the duration of event gift ended): Ultimate jewel and Level 4-6 Elemental cloak
When you become 120 level change Intelligent karkaen with Excellent Faren if you can and put Ultimate jewel and Level 4-6 Dimensional cloak inside.


Stones you should put inside your items:
Cap: Ultimate Jewel
Armor:Physical resistance,Skill Awakening,Curse removal and Stamina buff/increase
Gloves:
Critical:Light speed and Critical hit rate
Caster:Fragment of Ashtal
Kilt:Physical resistance,Skill block
Boots:Movement speed,Fragment of ashtal

SKILL BUILDS:

Critical builds(Bow):
Skill build for shuta farm(level 30): http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=30&h=000d1013161905080b0e1106090c0f12060616191c1215181b1715180d1e1b&rf=0000000000550141000301100000050400000000000000000000000
Before giving the skill point to life extinction go to flame bear spot at orc territory and test your character if your character does well you can give the rank to eternal soul.
Level 50: http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=50&h=000d1013161905080b0e1106090c0f12060616191c1215181b1715180d1e1b1e211e321f222124272a0e1114171a&rf=0000000000550151005501100000055500100000000000000000000
Level 80: http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=80&h=000d1013161905080b0e1106090c0f12060616191c1215181b1715180d1e1b1e211e321f222124272a343638383a3c3e40383a3c3e403e404244463e40434547494b0e1114171a&rf=0000000000550151005501100000055500455520003200000000000

Cast builds(Cast):
Level 30: http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=30&h=0005080b0e110d1016191506090c0f120606161c0e1215171c0d101e13181b&rf=0000001000530241001301100000151010000000000000000000000
Level 50: http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=50&h=0005080b0e110d1016191506090c0f120606161c0e1215171c0d101e13181b13161916191e212e2124272a080b0e1114&rf=0000001001555551001301100100155010000000000000000000000
Level 80: http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=80&h=0005080b0e110d1016191506090c0f120606161c0e1215171c0d101e13181b13161916191e212e2124272a080b0e111432343638383a3c3e40383a3c3e403e403e404244464345434547494b474244461f22252824272a2d06494b4d4f&rf=0000005001555551001301110500155010455525003520000000000
Level 120: http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=120&h=0005080b0e110d1016191506090c0f120606161c0e1215171c0d101e13181b13161916191e212e2124272a080b0e111432343638383a3c3e40383a3c3e403e403e404244464345434547494b474244461f22252824272a2d06494b4d4f5a5b5c5d5d5e5f60615e5f5d5e6465666768696a6b5f606f&rf=0000005001555551001301110500155010455525003525350203051



PVP:
Cast build is the strongest one ranger cannot hit good damages with critical. Energy bolt,mortal dagger and Eye of the ranger are the debuffs you should use to kill your opponent. You should use power kataria against casters to debuff their cooldown
and hence they will not be able to kill you easily. If you feel that you will that you can use bad friends and elemental favour and run away. Bad friends removes every slow effect and gives you stun protection. Elemental favour gives you a shield against
elemental damages. You should choose wisely when you use the elemental favour and bad friends if you use them at right time you can survive and kill your opponent. I recommend you to use elemental favour
when you get elemental resistance debuffs but if you have full items then your elemental resistance will still be 80. You should also learn which class can decrease your elemental/dim res under %80 this will be very helpful at pvps.


Skill build:
http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=120&h=0005080b0e110d1013161915080b0e11140d10131619171215181b1e1c2124272a2d06090c0f12060616191c1f220e1e1c282b2e31342e22160a32343638383a3c3e40383a3c3e403e404244463e40434547494b434547494b4747191c1f222124272a1114171a494b4d4f4244461f22&rf=0100003151555551105501100500055015455525103550000000000
http://archlord.drwx.eu/?c=Ranger&l=120&h=005a5b5c5d5d5e5f60615d5e5f5f60616465666768696a6b67606f70717273&rf=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004351303155
There are two skill builds since I cannot use every skill point we have at 150 level.

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Suggestions / Re: The Real Suggestions! SUPER JUSTAC!

« on: June 08, 2022, 01:04:22 PM »

1. No need for that than we will see knights with 50k hp again
2.Agree with that 1 slot outcome is a joke
3.Bringing bit back would be good for new players more tesseris means more pk for levelers
4.It looks good but botters might kill the game don't agree with that
5.Agree for low level rewards
6.Don't agree with that it would change the team fight mechanics a lot.
7.It will make the game p2w and its even impossible to find ec atm.
8.They are not very expensive at merchant and new starters get 100k lens so it is ok I think
9.Since the balance will change soon no comment atm.

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Suggestions / Re: Suggestion for Summer Event

« on: May 31, 2022, 11:08:12 PM »

1.agree
2.agree
3.agree
4.don't agree with that farmers also should be able to survive
5.don't agree with combi stones and foods if you need them go buy or refine them people spend time and money to refine them.
6.agree
7.agree
8.agree

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Want to Sell (WTS) / Re: WTS MANY CHARS - ALL IN ONE !!

« on: April 25, 2022, 07:56:47 PM »

Hi,
Can we buy the ranger items only