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Debuff dim res in game and elem
« on: November 04, 2022, 08:55:41 AM »
there are a lot of debuffs on ele res and res,
debuf on dim res is only 2, have them elem and hunter
despite such a high debuff from elem, some characters still have 80% dim res, so elem big dmg rebalance should help her, not make it difficult, proposes to add a HH debuff  dim res for elem or for other classes


I also propose to change the debuff to skill bloack and remove it from the bomb and add it to some other, e.g. Frozen Darts, because there are problems with debuff
people and before the bomb is on someone, 2 others will run out

or meaby change
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 remove dim res because it only works on normal attack and add to another HH skill
« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 10:45:29 AM by shado »

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2022, 09:17:26 AM »
and why do you think each class should have same? then I would like godlike and narcolepsy for my swash


« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 09:19:32 AM by Sweet Jesus »

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2022, 09:27:56 AM »
like i said on elem or other class for more debuffs but anyway elem have only dim dmg that why i sugest HH debuff

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2022, 10:54:35 AM »
I don't think elem shall be more buffed, they are already too strong. A good elem can nearly one tap people right now.

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2022, 11:00:55 AM »
skill block on bomba is ok in my opnion but thats true elem could get a boost somewhere maybe a little moovement speed or another debuff but i think moovent spee could be better because the meta right now is team fight and in most cases there is never 1v1 so adding debuff right now is not good i think right now the the elem what she need is movement speed because lets say there is fight in eclipse even full party buff elem doesn't even go past 300 movement speed compared to the other classes maybe adding her like 20ms on a buff or passive could make her more playable in fight than to just put a slow on her and she's done lets not forget she can be stun so adding movement speed on her could be a better option than to change her debuff or damage because i think she has enough right now

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2022, 11:04:43 AM »
I don't think so, of course, on low lvls it is ok but if someone has set uniqes to self buff takes a lot of dim res, after debuffing it still has 80% so elem hit it 1.5k but e.g. vs zerk hit her about 5k after debuf
« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 11:06:22 AM by shado »

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2022, 11:22:01 AM »
or changed
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To debuff every person what will attack you not only a normal attack

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2022, 02:33:28 PM »
Elem is in no need of a debuff increase on dim, there are only few classes who can still have good dim res after it's debuffs, she might lack mouvement speed and the Bomba mechanic might be difficult since you rely on the Bomba to hit to debuff anyone sb. But elems on ok gear will still hit 3-5k on most class.. a change can't be done just for 1 match up since it will impact all other class.

You cant compare elems without gear to the one with gear.
Just check
Shao, it can kill mostly everyone in game except some specific scenario where she get stun or enough debuffed.
Hildaldiv has only a void and has low res so he die easily but his dmg output in a fight is higher then most other activ player
Patience with free uniques currently can already compete with fully gear char except when he get perma stunned and he's still learning the class.

The class has counter, but its in no way missing damage since all her kit is toward aoe powerful dmg
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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2022, 03:02:06 PM »
Blindarrow 2.0 stop with suggestions that make 0 sense if you cant play the class properly

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2022, 03:26:29 PM »
Blindarrow 2.0 stop with suggestions that make 0 sense if you cant play the class properly

if you have nothing positive or worthy of attention, you'd better be silent
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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2022, 03:57:12 PM »
Can admin put also more debuff elem on archer and narcolepsy?

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2022, 01:59:36 AM »
Orbiter can reduce element resistance;
Archer can reduce element resistance;
Hunter can reduce dim resistance;

but ranger has none

They all belong to the bow class

so maybe should give ranger a ele/dim debuff to make server ranger player is Not Just Me (other ranger

all lvl up for farm)

So I guess Darkness has objections, because we are at opposite side  ;D ;D


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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2022, 08:38:42 AM »
Supplementary notes:

    The strongest damage of Ranger used to be the heaven skill,  but the heaven skills has been redone to

Non compulsory skills, and the ultimate skill has been greatly weakened from 2400 to 350-400.

    And the MP cost of Ranger skills is extremely high,even I'm 8/8 slots and damage is usually 600-700

each skill when hit success(It is almost difficult to hit success when fighting alone)

    moreover, Ranger has no  100% hit success skills


    above all , Maybe should give ranger a ele/dim debuff to make server ranger player is Not Just Me

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2022, 02:22:32 PM »
My resis debuff on zerk veri weak, plis buff, player keep max 80%  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Debuff dim res in game and elem
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2022, 02:25:31 PM »
Orbiter can reduce element resistance;
Archer can reduce element resistance;
Hunter can reduce dim resistance;

but ranger has none

They all belong to the bow class

so maybe should give ranger a ele/dim debuff to make server ranger player is Not Just Me (other ranger

all lvl up for farm)

So I guess Darkness has objections, because we are at opposite side  ;D ;D

I'd like godlike on my zerk cuz both zerk and knight belong to sword class