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Title: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Proteus on March 24, 2023, 03:59:26 PM
Hi there

I wanted to check with you if there are any plans about disabling party options/removing party buffs when players enter the portal from Broken bridge to Ancient Hero's dungeon. Currently party buffs are abused in this area as players come fully buffed and killing players on mounts. Perhaps it's time to do something about it?

Thanks
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Game Operator on March 24, 2023, 03:59:27 PM
Apart from guards directly at the entrance, no changes were planned. It's an open pvp zone, what do you mean by writing party buffs are abused.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Proteus on March 24, 2023, 03:59:27 PM
I didn't ask you to make it a safe area. Just apply the same settings as when players enter the dungeon. Players to lose any buffs and unable to party once they enter the pvp zone. Currently the settings are unfair for players that are unable to run multiple clients at once.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Game Operator on March 24, 2023, 03:59:28 PM
These kinds of changes require player discussion, we suggest opening a discussion so we can hear other players' arguments. If you want I can move this ticket to appropriate forum section.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Proteus on March 24, 2023, 03:59:28 PM
Yes please do absolutely it would be good to hear other opinions. Thanks for the consideration.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 24, 2023, 04:21:02 PM
What happent bro????? Crying?
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Blindarrow on March 24, 2023, 04:37:17 PM
No matter what kind of suggestions you post batard payers will come to say "cry?" . Useless to suggest anything. Things will always get abused and since there are people who are enjoying it you will not have any chance to change it
 Play same way or lose. This is how it works. There are many things that are abused and just ridiculous but there are enough people to vote against so it will not be changed.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: friendlyguy on March 24, 2023, 05:46:52 PM
 I agree with the suggestion that the party buffs should be restricted in the area, and keep it without party. Because camping on the portal with party buffers and coming full buffed because they cant offer a fair fight inside is bullshit.
I also agree with blind that some players always cry no matter what u suggest. The justac staff should reconsider many suggestions and keep the suggestions out of trolling comments. Only real facts (ofcourse not every suggestion can be liked from everyone i dont ask such thing)
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 24, 2023, 06:32:39 PM
Inside the world is not pt buff why cry after 1 year???
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: dabshiree on March 24, 2023, 06:41:14 PM
I have also brought up this topic and once again will share my opinion on it. Players are abusing party buffs in this area, once you cross over bridge all party members and buffs should be dropped if fight was to happen outside of tome itself it should be just as it is in tome, self buff. It’s not crying everyone is agreeing it should be gone except you @gamboaa. I know your slow at understanding at times but it seems your the one crying about this situation
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 24, 2023, 06:43:41 PM
Funy only rog cry and ur union chn do it all time 💩💩
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: dabshiree on March 24, 2023, 06:48:39 PM
But yet you stay in every post being immature and showing no relevance to anything posted
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Nymeria on March 24, 2023, 06:58:32 PM
I also agree that party buffs shouldn't be usable in this zone.

being an open area for pvp is great, and it creates tactics to not let your enemies enter if you don't plan to enter either (due to guards attacking skulled players).
But yes, it's a shame people abuse party buffers to just summon & kill in front of it. It's pretty irrelevant.

It would also force people to play the "same way" as in ancient due to no party buffs, but on a wider area. Which could/should be funny too.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 24, 2023, 07:00:18 PM
Another rog cry 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: dabshiree on March 24, 2023, 07:05:54 PM
Take away party buffs in CF and in front Ancient!
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 24, 2023, 07:17:15 PM
Still crying
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Psota on March 24, 2023, 07:37:01 PM
It obviously is crying hahha. ;D ;D ;D

RoGs hypocrisy has no borders. You call fair fights inside only when you have advantage of people so you fight with numbers. Meanwhile fighting outside on party buffs is a strategic way of blocking the ancient dungeon for the enemy. You come to fight with your numbers advantage on party buffs too and then you still lose. So then the only way to make a change is to spam the Admins with reports and pathetic crying instead of working together on your teamplay on pt buffs. We always pick up the glove even when the fights are extremely hard for us. Gamboa mentioned that your union CHN does exactly the same thing and that doesn't seem to look like a problem to you. RoGs always had more players than us and we never cried to admins for any changes to make stuff easier.

What is it going to change? No worries we always agree for all the changes because your reports always work more for our advantage than yours just like you guys complained to put cooldowns on Summon Orbs, GoP and Resurrection Orbs. You cried for a change that obviously just didn't workout for you and you lost the first huge fight right after that update and without a word you just left the game for few days because you realized you changed something that you guys abused all the time and now you are unable to use it anymore LOL. Just as I said we are looking forward to the changes because there is still plenty of ways to block the ancient and make you look bad after all your effort you put into dumb ideas.

(https://i.ibb.co/nbGSmYc/Screen-Shot-03-24-23-at-07-04-PM.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/N9BLFBK/Screen-Shot-03-04-23-at-06-02-AM.jpg)

Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: D0gm4 on March 24, 2023, 09:22:04 PM
u are right, its like tactic.

beside this topic, i feel the game is based too much on partybuffs.
thats just my feeling without judging any actions or tactics, without degrading any option or benefit which those buffs bring.

and beside that, even some trolls here have the same feeling, but they are afraid to announce them :)

stay safe
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Ivar on March 24, 2023, 10:41:02 PM
I see it the same way Proteus. In addition, I have a question here was just written We always want only advantages for us, where is the advantage for us in the screenshot?( https://ibb.co/sVq7VvJ ) the other 3 stood full of buff at the bridge
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: dabshiree on March 24, 2023, 10:45:41 PM
Hey @Psotka and @Gamboa …. Wanna explain that picture Ivar posted? Then talk party buffs at ancient and CF shouldn’t be removed
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Shank on March 24, 2023, 10:57:08 PM
@dabshiree and @Ivar. Ivar forgot to mention that you guys came with full buffed character together with CHN and were alot more player than us and later u started to feed us with Villiant point for around few houndred points. You guys shall start to say everything that happens instead of pointing what we are only doing. #ShortMemory
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Shank on March 24, 2023, 11:14:26 PM
@Ivar and all RoG. #Truth

https://ibb.co/MfmN7bV
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 24, 2023, 11:16:20 PM
The admin told me 1 year ago if u dont have team for fight in cf pr ancient is not they fault …… lets see what say now when rog cry
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: friendlyguy on March 24, 2023, 11:16:25 PM
I dont see rog on picture  :o
Also u the one full buffed  :-X
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 24, 2023, 11:20:59 PM
But why cry after 1 year on ancient?? …….. 🤡😂😂😂
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Ivar on March 24, 2023, 11:22:24 PM
That may be that you have eaten vps, I can not judge that was not so long online. You didn't fight me this morning, I logged in there and well how it is. but Shank again to my question which was not answered so maybe you understand them now where is on this screenshot the advantage for us ? You post here a picture where I write xD and am not visible myself maybe I was in the city maybe I was there I don't know I only see an xD is a bit skinny or don't you think so
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: stophateandloveyourself on March 25, 2023, 12:09:51 AM
u shoud all sit togeter and hold your hands and pray for peace, please respect eahother beging good person is better for world, stop hate casue this game its about friendship and respect
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: stophateandloveyourself on March 25, 2023, 12:12:54 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/rs9ZLWV/thumbnail-T-AAR.png)
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Psota on March 25, 2023, 12:20:01 AM
I see it the same way Proteus. In addition, I have a question here was just written We always want only advantages for us, where is the advantage for us in the screenshot?( https://ibb.co/sVq7VvJ ) the other 3 stood full of buff at the bridge

Totally worthless screenshot that is not proving anything. You just showed the buffers that are literally not a advantage of numbers. A video or a screenshot of an actual fight would be more appreciated because maybe then you could prove some point in this case. As I already mentioned blocking the ancient from the outside is a strategy. A tactic that is being used when we are oppressed by non equal number of players inside ancient. See this is the basic difference between us. If we cant win inside we take it outside ancient and keep fighting instead of running to forum with complains. You all also come to fight on full buffs, its not my fault you guys cant win a teamfight, where both sides are fully party buffed. If "the other 3" as you mentioned is too much for you to fight when you have a advantage, you guys should work on your teamplay. Not only teamplay but on your fighting spirit as well. Its easy to brake your morals you guys lose a fight and instead of trying again and improving something you all just give up. And also you should consider investing in your own buffers instead of counting only on your leader Dogma to buff you all the time. Maybe then you would be able to fight more and complain less.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: LeafaSenpai on March 25, 2023, 12:22:04 AM
i agree that party buff should be canceled when you enter the zone of ancient i mean the guard are almost already useless to prevent skulled player to enter because you can actually sleep them or even perma stun them with aoe either way your system as flaw for ancient . Psotka if i use your reasoning then either way the guard doesn't block the first thing theyre meant to do blocking the pks from going ancient that why the admin put them but if you come full pt buff they can't touch you so either way you can go inside or just use a second char to block them that was not their purpose but either way you guys only know how to trash when you winning but when you lose we don't see you anymore thats funny af
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: stophateandloveyourself on March 25, 2023, 12:28:37 AM
i agree that paty buff should be canceled when you enter the zone of ancient i mean the guard are almost already useless to prevent skulled player to enter because you can actually sleep them or even perma stun them with aoe either way your system as flaw for ancient .

i agree with u, but even beter gm make all land green no pvp so we can end this cycle of hate
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 25, 2023, 12:29:24 AM
Men im not playing this time i have long time dont log i just log in night like yesterday when we rape u on ancient kaponi mr incognito and darkness break ur ass yesterday when u run out with protective like chiken
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Amoswar on March 25, 2023, 01:17:24 AM
If you just remove buff when you use the portal, players will just summon or bring their party buff to that zone and then stop you from going inside.

We see it happens alot on multiple zone or for exemple for Tullan siege where you can just stop people from using the portal and make it easyer to win.

As Psotka said, its a tactic, one way to play when you struggle to win inside or you cant catch some players who will only run.

The only way for it to stop is to make the entrance a Safe zone, and I dont think thats what players want.

Some teams are stronger on Open field and struggle on small space.

The Guard are a useless feature that doesnt work and I have no idea why they are even there. Its just annoying and it doesnt stop any "pker" to go inside


FIGHTs are a must and a normal thing in Archlord, stop try to avoid it. Enjoy it instead
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Shank on March 25, 2023, 01:19:08 AM
https://youtu.be/RoBXszBIa6k
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: dabshiree on March 25, 2023, 05:01:45 AM
I do like the suggestion of eliminating this issue all together and make ancient portal in town (just like cf) strictly fight inside tome. If you want other fights take it east gate, or tesseris with party buffs, siege with party buffs, or cf (currently also with party buffs)
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 25, 2023, 10:14:38 AM
Gm respawn teslonninside castle for owner can won it and dont fight in eclipse 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Proteus on March 25, 2023, 12:36:26 PM
@Psotka and Eijun I think you guys acting like Napoleon Bonaparte or some sort of great strategist and talking about irrelevant things or past events that players had the opportunity to vote about. It's nothing special or requires any strategy to go fully buffed and kill players on mount. For the past weeks  this "great strategy" of your has occurred multiple times even when you had more players and you just keep slaying players on mounts. All this "strategy" of your is called cowardice to my eyes.

You had me lmao when you started saying that we have greater numbers than you during the fights. I am not going to argue with you perhaps they teach different Maths in Canada or Poland so you see numbers differently.

Considering that you're pro fighters and great strategists I don't see the problem with disabling party buffs and options in this area. You'll figure out a new way on how to stop us.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on March 25, 2023, 02:22:26 PM
U still crying proshit?
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Amoswar on March 25, 2023, 03:51:02 PM
@Proteus

Read again my post and this time TAKE the time to understand its meaning.

I didnt say it was either a good or a bad idea, just that it was a solution to stop players from going in and make sure some of your guys could go in and farm.

We also see the same tactic on multiple map and even if its shitty to do, its still a way to win.

Taking out buff by using portal would fix ABSOLUTLY nothing. People would still kill on mount, they would just block players from going in before the portal ...

Again, I hope you read before complaining. If you want this issue fix, cry for the right thing. Make the tp in city so your easy mount character can go inside and run like its made for.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Blindarrow on March 25, 2023, 06:52:13 PM
Not that I'm against your idea Proteus but before posting such suggestion look for your own members who are doing exact same thing to weaker players. Just one example..
(https://i.ibb.co/M6tKFqg/image-5.png) (https://ibb.co/YZ1JHvN)

Have a nice fight :)
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Blindarrow on March 25, 2023, 07:34:29 PM
Yep, just to show the lvl of beeing hipocrit - level republic of criers xD

(https://i.ibb.co/jv5ZnQc/republicofqq.png) (https://ibb.co/QFcjyT2)

GL with your suggestion Proteus xD
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Lure on March 27, 2023, 03:44:08 AM
For me:

The reason why I don't participate in fight some time ,  because I am very tired after finishing my work and getting

home from work every day.


We Older as Shao(ohoo) says, We play it as we love it ,  don't let game make us tired.



This can be achieved by strengthening the class itself, rather than players buffing up frequently.

it will make game easier and  “Quality of life”

enjoy game itself



Justac should consider canceling party buff and guild buff

Strengthen each class itself, make PK easier

Instead of relying on various buffs to support, it's quite Tired
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: D0gm4 on March 27, 2023, 03:33:37 PM
just to show, how "hypocrite" will be spelled.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Blindarrow on March 27, 2023, 03:45:29 PM
All this Crying about party buffs and you come with "right spelling" as an contra argument for beeing an hypocrite? wow... it's taking whole new level in RoG. On the other hand nothing new. My name was right to not see you have been like that all the time he have been in union. Again - Good luck.
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: stophateandloveyourself on March 27, 2023, 04:24:45 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/mDc1Ycn/trying-not-to-laugh-zoom-in.gif) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Party buffs portal to Ancient Dungeon
Post by: Gamboa on April 13, 2023, 02:53:13 AM
xD