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Title: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Cobra on July 22, 2021, 02:56:53 PM
Hello,

How long does Justac team needs to fix this mess ?
Realm worlds are full with summoners glitching attack speed, killing mobs in 1 sec all day long without any fear of punishments.
It gets worse when this glitch is being used in PvP and in Latria during Worm hunt, these cheaters can solo the boss in record time, is unreal.
People got perma banned for less than this at the beginning of the server, while this glitch is around for more than 1 week already and no actions have been taken, what's going on here?
This is a huge advantage that they are exploiting and it must be fixed asap.
More than half of the active people already left the server, act now before is too late.
Perma ban to all related accounts related to their ip, as the amount of gold, items, lucky tickets and so on, is at least x5 times more compared to a regular player in the same given amount of farming time.

Regards.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Etanool on July 22, 2021, 03:55:03 PM
Clever use of game mechanics Kappa
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Cobra on July 23, 2021, 11:28:07 PM
This is going to be the last try I am giving to this server, I've been playing from the very beginning, seen pretty much everything, from good to bad, experienced 0 support for years, but out of love for this game, me and many many more, always came back to give it another try and another try over and over again hopping it will get better. We lowered our standards in terms of support and took whatever was throwed at us, like a dog getting the bone from his master.
The thing is,  I just reached my boiling point and cannot stand this anymore.
Here is a sample of what we had to deal with before :
 
BOTS :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yncgZ4ynOZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihNVW6VbTkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDqHKKHgFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApkbejLhkMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVHU_RF1gFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToDBQd1870

CHINESE VOLUNTEER GLITCHING OBJECTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alv3VWv89VE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A8zhOpB4Mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxPs7laHxhc

SCION ATTACK SPEED GLITCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9LZspAY-NI

CHINESE SCION GLITCHING LEGENDARY SLAYER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuSnNe0fsVs

UNBALLANED ECLIPSE PVP (summon orb/ gate of phantom/revive orb ABUSE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx-mU8VwlmU

And many many many more like the ones above, I won't even mention the 3rd party insults ( family related) or racist insults.
Let me give you a hint, that chinese Volunteer you just saw running through every single object in his path, received no punishment, so you can imagine what the most of the other ones received.


****

Now we had a fresh new start, first months were amazing, I've seen GM online everyday, could not believe my eyes, you can't understand how excited I was to see an GM doing what he is supposed to do. I even whispered him from different characters, thanking him for his activity, just to keep his moral up in order to continue his work, until I got hit by a wall, sometimes what is too good to be true, it is not true.

First video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y7U4SqVn48
GM reply :
(https://i.ibb.co/tzZ03qt/gm.png) (https://ibb.co/FXsQn5M)
Second video : (YOU MUST WATCH THIS ONE) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO-5aytwZ0A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everything resume to this :
Good quality support = happy players = more players active = bigger income for the server owner = budget for good quality support/competent gm's.  It is a circle.
Every single player on this server, be it an cc buyer or a non cc buyer, is a wheel in a system that keeps the machine alive.
Remove the system parts and the machine will stop working.

So dear GM, please, for the last time, keep a closer relation with the players, show us transparency, keep us informed, take our suggestions, fix these bugs/glitches, punish the cheaters properly.
If someone gets banned, make a list with : name, reason for ban and duration of it, be it permanent or temporarily so we can see it.
If you modify abilities of some classes inside the game, make it known to all of us, we don't have to guess what's changed and what's not.
Update the description of skills correctly, some of them gives some stats which are not even mentioned.
Prevent people from overloading the Helpdesk system with nonurgent matters and punish the abusers/fake reports. This way you will have less tickets to check, therefor more time to fix real issues.
Stop copy paste the same useless script you are using for years " thanks for report, we are aware of this issue ", we got sick of this ignorant attitude. Show some respect towards your customers,  we all pay for this directly or indirectly.
Do you think adding a new flag is more important than fixing this summoner attack speed or any other bug inside the game ? c'mon let's be real.
We should not even have Volunteers here, they are almost doing the job of a GM, hosting events, checking for bots, taking complaints from players and so on. What they are doing for Justac staff is time consuming and  keep it mind they are players just like the rest of us, they also need to farm / enjoy the game. They are not getting anything in return. This game don't deserve people like D0gm4 or Eijun, honestly. GM's should do all of these, if you don't have enough, hire more.
In Latria during massive fights, players become invisible to each other, that's bad experience and the list can go on and on, if you would pay attention to players complaints and suggestions, probably we wouldn't be in this position today, with empty server and demotivated few remaining players.

Awaiting reply.






Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Etanool on July 23, 2021, 11:30:15 PM
+1
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Galadriel on July 23, 2021, 11:38:19 PM
+1.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: voiceofthesoul on July 23, 2021, 11:44:48 PM
+666
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Blindarrow on July 23, 2021, 11:53:36 PM
+1
Summoner hitting 4k on full party buffed archer with 300+ attack speed. The DMG...well ok. But the attacks speed ???
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: dabshiree on July 24, 2021, 12:07:32 AM
i mean its simple, get rid of the botters it is clear as day when they are on or put a system in that doesnt allow their bots to work. That would solve one of the most crucial problems, and would allow a possible raise to the drop rate of uniques so that normal players have a chance. which alone would raise the population to where it should be especially when the word is we have another 1 1/2 - 2 months of stage 1. Also, there is many classes that need looking into not just summoner. i do think summoner needed changes but i dont agree with it being the only class that needed work done to it. in the future, possibly being patient and putting out an update that fixes bugs of all classes, nerfs, buffs, whatever the case may be but for it to be targetting all classes and not just once in specific. i like this server and i want it to excel, otherwise i wouldnt give my input.           -Driller
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: burba_cz on July 24, 2021, 12:09:30 AM
A lot of QQ here and hate on chinese but this one:

We should not even have Volunteers here, they are almost doing the job of a GM, hosting events, checking for bots, taking complaints from players and so on.

You should go and see the "other" server where are more volunteers and free slaves working on server than regular players  and "doing" whole job for Paragon :)
And  checking bots ... You obviously lie here dude, I've never seen V checking for bots only 2 GMs almost everyday. Those demands on server where play maybe 100 people look a little childish, don't you think? Do you really think that is official server?

Quote
Good quality support = happy players = more players active = bigger income for the server owner = budget

Did you ever play other commercial mmorpg? Who play this server? Old farts like me and you who came by nostalgy. Only. Do you really belive that any new players will come this game? Utopian thoughts.
I can't belive they still running this server anyway.  I back after 5-6 years here and I play again and I stop when bored, like I bored "other" server. Take a break and chill out before you get stroke. Not worth to lose healt for such stupid thing like old bugged game.

Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Etanool on July 24, 2021, 12:12:27 AM
Easiest way to get rid of alot of botters would be to do as WOC and disable tab targeting / change it so you target players instead. You said keyboard / mouse macros are almost undetectable this would get rid of most of the botters, because they would need to have botting software which is possible to detect for you.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Amoswar on July 24, 2021, 12:27:35 AM
I agree that report should be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Proteus on July 24, 2021, 12:37:28 AM
Good summary and clear bug abuse by certain players. I don't understand why some people are acting like blind and not fixing these bugs.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: nutela on July 24, 2021, 12:43:56 PM
Great post, with great facts. Simply any player who cheat or abuse bug should get punish because its not fair for the other players.
+1
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: gabesz6 on July 24, 2021, 01:19:09 PM
+1
Lets remove tab targeting,and there wont be any bots anymore.Would like the idea.
Whoever is crying for tab targeting being removed is prolly a botter himself and needs to defend his priorities.

Who uses tab? If you are grinding you are using skills. If you are critting it wont hurt much to click on mobs and press 3.

PvP isnt affected due to tab targeting.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Soundwave on July 24, 2021, 03:48:11 PM
Alright, whats up whit this logic, a knight fight vs say an archer.. the archer cannot be stunned, the knight need to have a still standing target to be able to use " crits " normal attacks, how is this logic? a caster only need to run and do some skills , then run and do some more skill and run etc... the critter wont be able to do a single hit doe to the game need the target to stand still and we who are critters cannot hit while moving.. if lucky its a sorc who most of the critters can 1hit if we just manage to stun it for some reason..

could this be changed in someway to benefit the critters and not destory it all for casters? its kinda annoying this way but its maybe only me feeling that.

ps: not benefit it to make critter better just to benifit it that way that we actually can hit.


another suggestion.
1. give sorc some crit res and res to make it playable and give mage some elem res.
2. remove attack speed from weapon buffs for zerk and knight and give them all crit dmg like axe buff does. ( sounds unfair sure but it dosent change much around )
for example blunt buff gives elem dmg.. we dont use elem dmg and zerk wasent made to do cast, was made to be the strongest critter in dmg and less tanky then knight.

only chars ive played at this server idk about the others!
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Leo on July 24, 2021, 04:11:21 PM
Is that wishlist topic?

Then can I ask for longer antistun for rangers please?
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: driessensempire on July 24, 2021, 09:51:21 PM
Alright, whats up whit this logic, a knight fight vs say an archer.. the archer cannot be stunned, the knight need to have a still standing target to be able to use " crits " normal attacks, how is this logic? a caster only need to run and do some skills , then run and do some more skill and run etc... the critter wont be able to do a single hit doe to the game need the target to stand still and we who are critters cannot hit while moving.. if lucky its a sorc who most of the critters can 1hit if we just manage to stun it for some reason..

could this be changed in someway to benefit the critters and not destory it all for casters? its kinda annoying this way but its maybe only me feeling that.

ps: not benefit it to make critter better just to benifit it that way that we actually can hit.


another suggestion.
1. give sorc some crit res and res to make it playable and give mage some elem res.
2. remove attack speed from weapon buffs for zerk and knight and give them all crit dmg like axe buff does. ( sounds unfair sure but it dosent change much around )
for example blunt buff gives elem dmg.. we dont use elem dmg and zerk wasent made to do cast, was made to be the strongest critter in dmg and less tanky then knight.

only chars ive played at this server idk about the others!
also give mage movement speed and stun resist cause mages didnt get any advantage or change compare to other classes, they got no speed buff so they are slow!
if admin think changing range of skill makes mage beter than they should not have done this for the other classes aswel cause than mage lose their advantage. tried telling this to admin months ago but they refuse/fail to see and accept this.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Blindarrow on July 25, 2021, 09:34:08 AM
I really don't understand why you guys starting to make this post your "wishlist" ...
I don't understand even more why you complain about the only classes you played and didn't even see the struggle of other classes.
You guys don't compare between the classes, you don't think about chosing the right uniques . All I see is complaining about "weak crit on knight", "weak sorc" , "op summoner that needs 50% DMG reduction ", soon I'll see "nerf archer " (one of the most nerfed classes on the new server) .
Start using the right equipment and think about your skill build . I'm playing an crit zerk but I see critters are mostly now even using their skills. How ever - I can crit down many guys even if they are running. It's just a matter of a god team that makes each other strong.
Complaining about sorc that is already buffed too much ? For real? Phys res and crit res while your ele/dim res are passive, sb/dodge/block on passive ? It's like saying all archers skills should be unlockable or give archer Antimagic. Common guys. It's not about the class, it's about your incompetence .
So before you post your Christmas wishlist on a glitch abuse report post , think about how to play your character.
GL
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Bosscrit on July 25, 2021, 09:49:17 AM
+1
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Etanool on July 25, 2021, 12:13:02 PM
I really don't understand why you guys starting to make this post your "wishlist" ...
I don't understand even more why you complain about the only classes you played and didn't even see the struggle of other classes.
You guys don't compare between the classes, you don't think about chosing the right uniques . All I see is complaining about "weak crit on knight", "weak sorc" , "op summoner that needs 50% DMG reduction ", soon I'll see "nerf archer " (one of the most nerfed classes on the new server) .
Start using the right equipment and think about your skill build . I'm playing an crit zerk but I see critters are mostly now even using their skills. How ever - I can crit down many guys even if they are running. It's just a matter of a god team that makes each other strong.
Complaining about sorc that is already buffed too much ? For real? Phys res and crit res while your ele/dim res are passive, sb/dodge/block on passive ? It's like saying all archers skills should be unlockable or give archer Antimagic. Common guys. It's not about the class, it's about your incompetence .
So before you post your Christmas wishlist on a glitch abuse report post , think about how to play your character.
GL

Gl critting someone moving with W A S D, they will be desyncing all over ur screen.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: smoothie on July 25, 2021, 01:19:12 PM
+1
Lets remove tab targeting,and there wont be any bots anymore.Would like the idea.
Whoever is crying for tab targeting being removed is prolly a botter himself and needs to defend his priorities.

Who uses tab? If you are grinding you are using skills. If you are critting it wont hurt much to click on mobs and press 3.

PvP isnt affected due to tab targeting.


If they remove TAB I demand remove WSAD too
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Ryis on July 27, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
Removing tab targeting won't remove bots 100%. If you think this will remove bots, I suggest you google what a pixel search is.
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Cobra on July 27, 2021, 11:58:04 AM
Guys let's not go too far from the main point of this topic, which is the current situation of crit summoners glitching the attack speed.
Indeed there are a lot more bugs and issues that must be solved and none of these will get fixed as long we don't make it loud and clear to GM/Admin.
We are a small community and at this point there is no need anymore to argue with each other over who has a bigger brain and who not, rivality should be put aside and we should work together towards a common goal.
GM will you start communicating with us and fix this mess?
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Ryis on July 27, 2021, 01:38:59 PM
+1
Title: Re: Summoner attack speed glitch
Post by: Episode Guide on July 27, 2021, 02:01:56 PM
You decided to paste our ticket answer so you got the answer.
So once again. Problem was reported and we are working to solve it. We don't know what else answer can satisfy you but no need to spam forum with double reports.