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General Discussion => Suggestions => Topic started by: Etanool on February 17, 2022, 10:48:42 AM

Title: Detection scrolls
Post by: Etanool on February 17, 2022, 10:48:42 AM
Change detection scrolls to work like mage's Ethereal Vision, right now detection scrolls only work if you are in battle with the player ( red name ) which makes it useless unless your fighting a swash that uses combat invisibility.
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Sweet Jesus on February 17, 2022, 11:32:37 AM
sure
make mage more useless than it is now
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Galadriel on February 18, 2022, 10:26:00 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: synapsesorc on February 18, 2022, 07:56:29 PM
+1
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: W4b on February 18, 2022, 08:02:38 PM
-1 for suggestion
-10 because troll topic creator

they nerfed invisible time already and now more fk to rangers and swash?
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Amoswar on February 18, 2022, 08:18:35 PM
Detection scroll should already detect invisible players. I dont know why it doesnt do what its intended for.

It was created to make other class able to spot invisible target.

Will see if a GM can explain why it doesnt do it currently.

Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Galadriel on February 18, 2022, 08:26:58 PM
are you guys retarded or what ? detect scroll never detected players those are not in battle with you. So you better tell us what caused your butthurt about invisible. does someone using invis at bs and taking boss from you?
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Sweet Jesus on February 18, 2022, 08:27:12 PM
Detection scroll should already detect invisible players. I dont know why it doesnt do what its intended for.

It was created to make other class able to spot invisible target.

Will see if a GM can explain why it doesnt do it currently.


Read tooltips. It was always for hostile targets only. Since ep1. it's funny that an old gamer doesn't know that. If it will be for any status then it makes Ethereal Vision totally useless, skillpoints wasting skill. And all invisible skills will be more uselless too when all start to spam scrolls.
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Etanool on February 18, 2022, 08:53:31 PM
are you guys retarded or what ? detect scroll never detected players those are not in battle with you. So you better tell us what caused your butthurt about invisible. does someone using invis at bs and taking boss from you?

This is a suggestion, please fuck off with your worthless comments :)
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Etanool on February 18, 2022, 08:55:15 PM
-1 for suggestion
-10 because troll topic creator

they nerfed invisible time already and now more fk to rangers and swash?

Invisibility is not what makes rangers and swashes so strong.
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Etanool on February 18, 2022, 08:57:44 PM
Detection scroll should already detect invisible players. I dont know why it doesnt do what its intended for.

It was created to make other class able to spot invisible target.

Will see if a GM can explain why it doesnt do it currently.

Read tooltips. It was always for hostile targets only. Since ep1. it's funny that an old gamer doesn't know that. If it will be for any status then it makes Ethereal Vision totally useless, skillpoints wasting skill. And all invisible skills will be more uselless too when all start to spam scrolls.

This is a suggestion and if they would change detection scrolls to actually be usefull they could up the price to around 5 mil each, this would also increase gold income for castle holders.

Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: endorphine on February 18, 2022, 09:01:34 PM
+1 good idea
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: synapsesorc on February 18, 2022, 09:04:49 PM
why are you crying about it i thought you left the server already KEKW
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Walt on February 19, 2022, 12:47:25 AM
+1 good suggestion.

@Legolas of course you don't want it to be changed, because you are never in a fight with anyone    ???
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Game Operator on February 19, 2022, 05:30:01 PM
Scrolls mechanics are as they are from the beginning of the game. Please give a specific explanation why it should be changed.  We don't want to remove certain classes of their advantages if it is not well motivated.
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Galadriel on February 19, 2022, 05:43:34 PM
Scrolls mechanics are as they are from the beginning of the game. Please give a specific explanation why it should be changed.  We don't want to remove certain classes of their advantages if it is not well motivated.
Specific explanation: Etanol is braindamaged, he does silly suggestions.  ;D
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Etanool on February 19, 2022, 06:05:10 PM
Scrolls mechanics are as they are from the beginning of the game. Please give a specific explanation why it should be changed.  We don't want to remove certain classes of their advantages if it is not well motivated.

Right now every class in the game can be invisible with guild invisibility and you can also be party buffed after you went invisible. The only class that can remove invisibility is mage. With detection scroll working on non hostile players you would have to option to not have to lvl a mage if you dont want to. The price of detection scrolls could be greatly increased so if you own a mage you would still prefer to use the mage to save gold when using anti invis. ( If you do change detection scrolls the cooldown should be increased to 10-30min aswell )

This way everyone could use anti invis if they really wants to but mage would still be prefered because of the lower cooldown and no cost.
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: travis on February 19, 2022, 06:26:15 PM
Joke suggestion.
I can imagine next request: give all atimagic scroll because is unfair that only mage can do it.
Give godlike scroll because now only knight can use it.
Give mutation scroll because now only ele can use it.


Leave it as it is.
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Etanool on February 23, 2022, 12:21:44 AM
sure
make mage more useless than it is now

In zones like Battlesquare/siege it already works because its a battlefield zone. I would suggest making high pvp areas battlefield zones but then you wouldnt be getting vps if you kill low lvls.
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Amoswar on February 23, 2022, 01:12:05 AM
yeah mybad,

Last i remember using them was on "Infernum" which was a battlefield zone and everyone could hit one another. Guess that was the reason it worked there.

Mage will be needed in Eclipse if it work as before. lets see if its needed after couple of time on stage 3
Title: Re: Detection scrolls
Post by: Leo on February 23, 2022, 05:40:30 AM
This will help only invisible buffers killers