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General Discussion => Suggestions => Topic started by: dabshiree on January 16, 2024, 03:02:24 PM
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This video shows what happens just about every single day after you spend hours cleaning waves 1 - 4 in shinewood. The CHN players no matter what time of day or night keep characters around and watch for when the higher waves come. Knowing they can never win a fight they are making more and more mages daily and once you attack one of their main characters for coming rat you and your guild's higher waves they bring the army of mages which every single one of them are lower level and are here knowing they can force you to get villain points until you either white skull or quit going into shinewood. This is their way of winning over shinewood and winning the farm. This tactic works and they have admitted they are going to continue to make more mage's and never level them to 150. Is this really "end game" if they can do this just like they do on eclipse for tesseris or just another way for CHN to push all players out of the game with their tactics of abuse. They claim to be "bored" and "want fights" well enjoy the video because this is what really happens. We have also suggested by numerous players to take the VP feeding out of shinewood, administration never responds. I guess i will now start to make videos of this wonderful content...so without further ado...enjoy what CHN did after we spent hours farming waves 1-4 and how they responded when they could not win the fight!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV1BDdxtp-M
If you dont see the issues i dont know what else to say. To fix this you must take away party buffs in shinewood or the game is ruined. The CHN alliance will continue to build mages and just go in shine take all buffs away and then rush in with their main characters once you are self buffed. They have ruined eclipse/tesseris to the point no one even fights there or cares about it. They are now ruining shinewood. If you want to sit back and do nothing about this fine, totally up to you. I will make videos showing how this is until no one even wants to go shinewood. To get motivation from my friends and guild is exhausting at this point with them knowing how the outcome will be, VP feeding from all the low level mages from CHN guild. This is ridiculous and ruining your update to the game. I posted this video everywhere i possibly could and will continue to make people aware of how the end game currently is. I hope you can do something about this as soon as possible. Thanks - Driller
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Block entrance people lvl 149 less
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Maybe put some actual programming into the game, and make it that way that you can enter the bridges of both entrance every 10 minutes once,so china wouldnt abuse mage antis, so a class which isnt the strongest at all wouldnt be cocknerfed
also this way some new players around tullan could actually use roundtrip passports which they cant on half of the big map due it being forbidden even in desert because of the battlefield zone which takes 4x bigger space than it is
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Why don't you just delete the mage class? How are pardons used? When do you use it?
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There is no issue with mage class. Just make it 150 and come fight. It's already enough to get VPs in almost every eclipse fight - there ppl with lvl 150 use their letter of pardon.
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Why don't you just delete the mage class? How are pardons used? When do you use it?
Why would you want them to delete the mage class? Nothing is wrong with the mage class. Ironic you also bring up pardons while talking about the mage class? Feel free to level up your mage to 150 so you can actually receive drops with this character in shinewood, or if you choose to keep it level 130 you can also enjoy receiving zero drops from any monsters in shinewood. Continue to abuse this for all rounds of tesseris in eclipse. But shinewood there is not one single reason you can give me that me or anyone for that matter should receive vp points when this is a small restricted area with monsters all at the level of 150, 10-20x levels more than your mages (depending on which one is logged). I think since the shinewood update so you make sure to avoid all fights and push your enemies out of shinewood by abusing this, your CHN alliance is up to 4 or 5 lvl 130,131, and 140 mages ready to vp feed shinewood? I apologize you were excited about this, and once again ill apologize for making a valid argument and a youtube video showing the abuse of this method first hand, that this should in fact be removed from the shinewood area but if you cannot see why and that it is abuse and an issue in this area i think my efforts to allow you to see the big picture and not be so close minded and self centered is done. Valid and Factual points were made not only on this post but the other very active post on the issue with getting villain points in shinewood area. Also about your last question when do i use letters of pardon, ive bought enough letters of pardon to fill up your CC bags 4x full. Dont question my spending of EC as ive provided more than 50% of the CHN Alliances ec in the past year and a half. So i think this conversation is over. Have a good day wang162710
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Your remarks almost made me laugh. My friend, this is not a circus. Where did the clown come from? What you said, whether it's day or night, is that in reality, we only play games during our day, and we can beat you at any time during our day. However, the fact is that you are running too fast, trying to hide and steal some monsters. We are forced to use magic to counter it. I think this is a reasonable and reasonable game mechanism issue. If you are chased by the majority of magic due to too few players, Please come during your daytime
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Your remarks almost made me laugh. My friend, this is not a circus. Where did the clown come from? What you said, whether it's day or night, is that in reality, we only play games during our day, and we can beat you at any time during our day. However, the fact is that you are running too fast, trying to hide and steal some monsters. We are forced to use magic to counter it. I think this is a reasonable and reasonable game mechanism issue. If you are chased by the majority of magic due to too few players, Please come during your daytime
Ok im not even going to respond to the first part of what you said because its already obvious you are also CHN alliance as nothing you say makes any sense. But lets jump to the point of you claiming you can beat me at any time during your day...but a hunter is too fast? Im sorry it took you so long to make up a scenario like this and claim of all people im ratting your waves this made me giggle. For example, just last night you are actually the one who came rat my wave haha. This was a good one. Leading to your next false accusation that you are forced to use mages to counter me, you realize you have plenty main characters that can easily catch a hunter compared to a mage, is a mage fast on full damage uniques? Yes, but a mage can be slowed therefore one blue debuff and im gone. Once again your statement makes no sense. You cant catch me on your mains but on a mage you can. What a joke haha. Oh and on top of that let me guess it HAS to be a level 130 mage right? I hear they get 20% more passive movement speed being at that level in shinewood. Seems you brought the circus to me, clown. But once again the issue is not the mage itself it is the level of the mage i wish some of you would take time and learn how to read. So if your only counter play is to use mages? Great, go level it to 150 CHN because hopefully soon the option of VP feeding will be gone. Then we will see how you play the strategy vs me when it is an even playing field you want to guess how it will end up? You kissing the floor <3
Oh also you claim that CHN only plays in the daytime..and im just wondering do you rotate different players playing Pinklady? Because this character never logs off. Pretty close to on 24/7 and if you start clearing shinewood he can smell it. He will come rat, and if possible come VP feed with his mage. Literally almost 24/7. Eat your words and if you choose to comment on my post please have a valid argument next time.
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Don't make these fantasies here. I really enjoy fighting against eijun and his team. At least they won't be like you (just yourself). No matter how much you win or lose, you always talk too much. Now you even start talking nonsense like balabala on forums. You always try to make your teammates suffer and secretly brush something, This makes us feel very contemptuous (just yourself). If you think you can change this, you can give it a try. You didn't lose to Mage 140, you just lost to Mage XD
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Don't make these fantasies here. I really enjoy fighting against eijun and his team. At least they won't be like you (just yourself). No matter how much you win or lose, you always talk too much. Now you even start talking nonsense like balabala on forums. You always try to make your teammates suffer and secretly brush something, This makes us feel very contemptuous (just yourself). If you think you can change this, you can give it a try. You didn't lose to Mage 140, you just lost to Mage XD
Its not fantasies when i have over 40 videos legit slaughtering your union with ease. Wake up and smell the bacon playboy. I may talk alot but im educated unlike you and i also can back up everything i say which also has been proven. I notice you are trying to change the subject and i think its quite cute, but the fact of the matter is CHN union does not even have a mage over level 140. Every single mage in ur union is either level 130, level 131, or level 140. Strictly created to put anti-magic and VP feed. Which brings me back to what matters about this post, CHN union VP feeding with multiple mages in shinewood because they cannot win, so they result to this tactic and abuse this as much as possible so they can get as much farm as possible. If CHN is so good why do they dodge every single PvP event hosted on this server? They dramatically lost the first 2 best team events and never showed up after that ashamed of possibly losing even quicker? Or maybe because they cant bring lvl 130 mages to best team event and VP feed their enemy? Idk you may know the answer to that.
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It seems that you really need some videos to prove your cowardice, which I can understand. It seems that you are also avoiding issues such as abandoning your teammates and running away. Additionally, pepapig is LV141 LOL. As for the best team, don't make me laugh anymore. In the competition, I only saw a hunter running wildly, which even made me think it was a big escape game. I think GM should give you a separate title {Escape Champion}
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It seems that you really need some videos to prove your cowardice, which I can understand. It seems that you are also avoiding issues such as abandoning your teammates and running away. Additionally, pepapig is LV141 LOL. As for the best team, don't make me laugh anymore. In the competition, I only saw a hunter running wildly, which even made me think it was a big escape game. I think GM should give you a separate title {Escape Champion}
Level 141 = a VP feeder you noob. Also, i make videos for content. It just so happens that CHN is so easy for me to 1v4 or 1v7 it makes for such great videos. Also i dont see why you would laugh at best team i didnt think you would laugh at your own union...how loyal are you? One question... but did i die?
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China power
Did enough ratting everywhere in the last 3 years of the server being on again that finally they could afford the google translator at this point
Unbelievable!
#FarmforRice became actually #FarmforTranslate or better #Ratfortranslate or #RatforAnti
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Pepapig is secundary account of one of this stupid chn members. Like allways they are afk just come to give vp. Pepapig / athena / pinkshit
Allways secundary characte givng vp
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I aggree with the problem of VP feed.
Specially when people abuse of it.
There is no sence that in an endgame area (I’m mostly speaking about shinewood) you got VP feed.
This area should be like infernum/BG = pvp zone
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It seems that you really need some videos to prove your cowardice, which I can understand. It seems that you are also avoiding issues such as abandoning your teammates and running away. Additionally, pepapig is LV141 LOL. As for the best team, don't make me laugh anymore. In the competition, I only saw a hunter running wildly, which even made me think it was a big escape game. I think GM should give you a separate title {Escape Champion}
Level 141 = a VP feeder you noob. Also, i make videos for content. It just so happens that CHN is so easy for me to 1v4 or 1v7 it makes for such great videos. Also i dont see why you would laugh at best team i didnt think you would laugh at your own union...how loyal are you? One question... but did i die?
Lucky you used a hunter! If a hunter keeps running away, who do you think can kill the hunter? You can't admit you're fast! You've been running away! Run away! Poor mouse!
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这个区域应该改成只能PVE 不能PVP
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Its true VP feeding is a problem in Shinewood since the mobs are lvl 150 you shouldn't be allowed to go .
Its an end game zone its shoulnd't be allowed to have lvl 130 to 147 go there at all
maybe add the guards that were in front of Ancient hero tomb and make them kill under lvl 147 players or make a teleporter before shinewood to block them
and since you can't go from tullan to desert anymore maybe add a teleporter from tullan to hideback or Milieu that way new players can't still teleport on the map
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Its true VP feeding is a problem in Shinewood since the mobs are lvl 150 you shouldn't be allowed to go .
Its an end game zone its shoulnd't be allowed to have lvl 130 to 147 go there at all
maybe add the guards that were in front of Ancient hero tomb and make them kill under lvl 147 players or make a teleporter before shinewood to block them
and since you can't go from tullan to desert anymore maybe add a teleporter from tullan to hideback or Milieu that way new players can't still teleport on the map
I like to use level 130 mage to challenge level 150 monsters, I don't need to gain anything, I just love to do it, love the experience! I'm willing to challenge the difficulty, it doesn't matter if I get the item or not, what's the problem?
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If you don't want to fight, or are afraid of getting punished, then you play a single-player game! Go play a game with only pve! Or maybe you just don't really want to spend money on pardons, but let me tell you, I have plenty of money to spend on resurrection props! Don't complain because of your incompetence! Enjoy the fun of the game!
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Dude stop.
Just stop humiliate yourself.
All the points were already said and explained.
We need more players feedbacks, so you can stop your troll,
nobody, even yourself, find what you say funny.
cheers. Mr Proud Feeder
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Its true VP feeding is a problem in Shinewood since the mobs are lvl 150 you shouldn't be allowed to go .
Its an end game zone its shoulnd't be allowed to have lvl 130 to 147 go there at all
maybe add the guards that were in front of Ancient hero tomb and make them kill under lvl 147 players or make a teleporter before shinewood to block them
and since you can't go from tullan to desert anymore maybe add a teleporter from tullan to hideback or Milieu that way new players can't still teleport on the map
I like to use level 130 mage to challenge level 150 monsters, I don't need to gain anything, I just love to do it, love the experience! I'm willing to challenge the difficulty, it doesn't matter if I get the item or not, what's the problem?
this quote of yours literally makes no sense. you like to challenge the monsters? you dont need to gain anything? but you are gaining everything. VP feeding your enemies moves them out of shinewood combining that with anti-magic's. even saying this your statement would maybe make sense if you didnt strictly use them to anti-magic your enemies and actually kill monsters but what you are saying here is 100% a lie. GM can feel free to check up on this statement by them if they would like.
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If you don't want to fight, or are afraid of getting punished, then you play a single-player game! Go play a game with only pve! Or maybe you just don't really want to spend money on pardons, but let me tell you, I have plenty of money to spend on resurrection props! Don't complain because of your incompetence! Enjoy the fun of the game!
we are not asking to take away party buffs. so therefore the attempt is NOT to take away a multi-player environment its to take away the ABUSE being done by low level mages VP feeding in this area that was meant for strictly end game players. no you dont have plenty of money CHN doesnt even buy their own ec. stop with your nonsense please.
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@GM or @Admin can you lock this post until you can overlook all information provided? All players have spoke their opinion. It is now just being spammed by one CHN alliance player who is upset because he is the main VP feeder. Please and thank you!
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If you don't want to fight, or are afraid of getting punished, then you play a single-player game! Go play a game with only pve! Or maybe you just don't really want to spend money on pardons, but let me tell you, I have plenty of money to spend on resurrection props! Don't complain because of your incompetence! Enjoy the fun of the game!
stfu and go hide in your own corner back at the rice fields, none thinks about your retarded messages, be the proud feeder you are elsewhere, cuz they dont even wait anything from you in your life i guess
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If you don't want to fight, or are afraid of getting punished, then you play a single-player game! Go play a game with only pve! Or maybe you just don't really want to spend money on pardons, but let me tell you, I have plenty of money to spend on resurrection props! Don't complain because of your incompetence! Enjoy the fun of the game!
You're talking nonsense. I bought the Resurrection and used it. Did you buy forgiveness?
we are not asking to take away party buffs. so therefore the attempt is NOT to take away a multi-player environment its to take away the ABUSE being done by low level mages VP feeding in this area that was meant for strictly end game players. no you dont have plenty of money CHN doesnt even buy their own ec. stop with your nonsense please.
Are you being racist? The frog at the bottom of the well! Chinese consumption level you will never understand!
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@GM or @Admin can you lock this post until you can overlook all information provided? All players have spoke their opinion. It is now just being spammed by one CHN alliance player who is upset because he is the main VP feeder. Please and thank you!
Everything you say is bullshit! All because you didn't want to use the pardon! The impotent rage! Even started insulting and discriminating against Chinese! No matter what! It is a fact that I could afford the Resurrection and used it, and you cannot afford forgiveness! It doesn't matter what you say! After all, as long as you use pardon, all problems are not problems! Poor oaf!
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Dude stop.
Just stop humiliate yourself.
All the points were already said and explained.
We need more players feedbacks, so you can stop your troll,
nobody, even yourself, find what you say funny.
cheers. Mr Proud Feeder
Who do you think you are? You can't afford a pardon, can you?
Come on! Let me see how many people can't afford a pardon? You should get down on your knees and beg the administrator to knock down the price of the pardon! hahaha!
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If you don't want to fight, or are afraid of getting punished, then you play a single-player game! Go play a game with only pve! Or maybe you just don't really want to spend money on pardons, but let me tell you, I have plenty of money to spend on resurrection props! Don't complain because of your incompetence! Enjoy the fun of the game!
You're talking nonsense. I bought the Resurrection and used it. Did you buy forgiveness?
we are not asking to take away party buffs. so therefore the attempt is NOT to take away a multi-player environment its to take away the ABUSE being done by low level mages VP feeding in this area that was meant for strictly end game players. no you dont have plenty of money CHN doesnt even buy their own ec. stop with your nonsense please.
Are you being racist? The frog at the bottom of the well! Chinese consumption level you will never understand!
im being racist by knowing chinese players inside china cannot use paypal or the other ways of donating? this information was given to me by CHN alliance reason MANY of our trades have been me supplying them with EC. claiming the racist card wow, you are really resulting to anything on this post. You sir are as desperate as they come to keep your abusing ways of VP feeding!
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@GM or @Admin can you lock this post until you can overlook all information provided? All players have spoke their opinion. It is now just being spammed by one CHN alliance player who is upset because he is the main VP feeder. Please and thank you!
Everything you say is bullshit! All because you didn't want to use the pardon! The impotent rage! Even started insulting and discriminating against Chinese! No matter what! It is a fact that I could afford the Resurrection and used it, and you cannot afford forgiveness! It doesn't matter what you say! After all, as long as you use pardon, all problems are not problems! Poor oaf!
like i said earlier, buying pardons i have no issue with. i buy them everywhere else CHN alliance VP feeds just to be able to win since that is and will always be the only way you can win. BUT in an area with level 150 monsters and only meant for end game players this decision of allowing this is incorrect. And btw the entire server agree's with me you are the only one upset (because you are the main VP feeder)
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Dude stop.
Just stop humiliate yourself.
All the points were already said and explained.
We need more players feedbacks, so you can stop your troll,
nobody, even yourself, find what you say funny.
cheers. Mr Proud Feeder
Who do you think you are? You can't afford a pardon, can you?
Come on! Let me see how many people can't afford a pardon? You should get down on your knees and beg the administrator to knock down the price of the pardon! hahaha!
Once again you are lying. I have bought many pardons. I just am pointing out a fact of an area that has no need to allow VP feed as no low level players should be here. You are being very immature and have no legitimate argument here. This post just needs to be locked you are bringing up so many lies and invalid points. You are also once again the only one trying to keep this abuse of VP feeding in shinewood. You are horrible for this server. No donations, no fair fights. Legit what are you even here for? Farm for food
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This is just bullshit, @wang162710 you are just spouting nonsense
This area is filled with mob that has the highest stats in the game, max level, can anti and stun, and litteraly 2 shot 8/8 150 char with op gear
How can we allow char lower than 147 in there ?
Also, infernum is an endgame map, like ancient hero dungeon before and there was no VP there and still no VP in infernum, so why keep them on this endgame map made for upgrading your gear to its highest stats?
You dont answer to that question, all you do is taunt, troll, insult saying that people cant afford ec while its you trying to buy ec from players for weeks but nobody wants to sell to you or buy because you make up prices that are just indecent compared to the real value
Also you use this tactic of VP feed so people once rogue they cant use pt buffs and you can make them self with the multiple antimagic
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This is just bullshit, @wang162710 you are just spouting nonsense
This area is filled with mob that has the highest stats in the game, max level, can anti and stun, and litteraly 2 shot 8/8 150 char with op gear
How can we allow char lower than 147 in there ?
Also, infernum is an endgame map, like ancient hero dungeon before and there was no VP there and still no VP in infernum, so why keep them on this endgame map made for upgrading your gear to its highest stats?
You dont answer to that question, all you do is taunt, troll, insult saying that people cant afford ec while its you trying to buy ec from players for weeks but nobody wants to sell to you or buy because you make up prices that are just indecent compared to the real value
Also you use this tactic of VP feed so people once rogue they cant use pt buffs and you can make them self with the multiple antimagic
+1+1+1+1+1 very well said.
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Dude stop.
Just stop humiliate yourself.
All the points were already said and explained.
We need more players feedbacks, so you can stop your troll,
nobody, even yourself, find what you say funny.
cheers. Mr Proud Feeder
Who do you think you are? You can't afford a pardon, can you?
Come on! Let me see how many people can't afford a pardon? You should get down on your knees and beg the administrator to knock down the price of the pardon! hahaha!
Once again you are lying. I have bought many pardons. I just am pointing out a fact of an area that has no need to allow VP feed as no low level players should be here. You are being very immature and have no legitimate argument here. This post just needs to be locked you are bringing up so many lies and invalid points. You are also once again the only one trying to keep this abuse of VP feeding in shinewood. You are horrible for this server. No donations, no fair fights. Legit what are you even here for? Farm for food
If you bought a pardon, why can't you use party buffs? Can't you use it? As long as you use the pardon, you can use the platoon buff, do I have to teach you that? You little fool!
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Dude stop.
Just stop humiliate yourself.
All the points were already said and explained.
We need more players feedbacks, so you can stop your troll,
nobody, even yourself, find what you say funny.
cheers. Mr Proud Feeder
Who do you think you are? You can't afford a pardon, can you?
Come on! Let me see how many people can't afford a pardon? You should get down on your knees and beg the administrator to knock down the price of the pardon! hahaha!
Once again you are lying. I have bought many pardons. I just am pointing out a fact of an area that has no need to allow VP feed as no low level players should be here. You are being very immature and have no legitimate argument here. This post just needs to be locked you are bringing up so many lies and invalid points. You are also once again the only one trying to keep this abuse of VP feeding in shinewood. You are horrible for this server. No donations, no fair fights. Legit what are you even here for? Farm for food
If you bought a pardon, why can't you use party buffs? Can't you use it? As long as you use the pardon, you can use the platoon buff, do I have to teach you that? You little fool!
once you reach white skull, there is a timer before you can get rid of the skull meaning temporarily that the fight is over being your enemy will not be able to party buff and need to wait for the cooldown to pardon their character. seems you are the player that doesnt understand when and how you can use a pardon but that would also make sense being you are the VP feeder and we are the ones buying pardons. you understand now? you are slowly giving it all away. please, continue to talk your madness. the only thing you COULD teach us is how to create low level mages in every area its possible and win fights by VP feeding your enemies until #1 they either dont want to fight anymore because you fight like a little girl and cant win like normal OR #2 they are on villain level cooldown waiting to get rid of their skull to be able to party buff again.
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Dude stop.
Just stop humiliate yourself.
All the points were already said and explained.
We need more players feedbacks, so you can stop your troll,
nobody, even yourself, find what you say funny.
cheers. Mr Proud Feeder
Who do you think you are? You can't afford a pardon, can you?
Come on! Let me see how many people can't afford a pardon? You should get down on your knees and beg the administrator to knock down the price of the pardon! hahaha!
Once again you are lying. I have bought many pardons. I just am pointing out a fact of an area that has no need to allow VP feed as no low level players should be here. You are being very immature and have no legitimate argument here. This post just needs to be locked you are bringing up so many lies and invalid points. You are also once again the only one trying to keep this abuse of VP feeding in shinewood. You are horrible for this server. No donations, no fair fights. Legit what are you even here for? Farm for food
If you bought a pardon, why can't you use party buffs? Can't you use it? As long as you use the pardon, you can use the platoon buff, do I have to teach you that? You little fool!
once you reach white skull, there is a timer before you can get rid of the skull meaning temporarily that the fight is over being your enemy will not be able to party buff and need to wait for the cooldown to pardon their character. seems you are the player that doesnt understand when and how you can use a pardon but that would also make sense being you are the VP feeder and we are the ones buying pardons. you understand now? you are slowly giving it all away. please, continue to talk your madness. the only thing you COULD teach us is how to create low level mages in every area its possible and win fights by VP feeding your enemies until #1 they either dont want to fight anymore because you fight like a little girl and cant win like normal OR #2 they are on villain level cooldown waiting to get rid of their skull to be able to party buff again.
The first thing you need to understand is this! If you don't attack someone else first, you won't get the skeleton! So none of what you're saying exists! It's like if you didn't racist them, they wouldn't shoot you!
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@wang162710
well to respond to this comment is easy, when you sir come into shinewood with your main character to try and take my farmed waves, i will kill you. Giving my character the purple skull you speak of, and in return when you cannot do anything because i am entirely too strong for you, you then result to bringing your level 130 mages putting anti-magic on me and trying to run away in hope you can make me self buff and when i kill you i get VP because you are doing this on a low level character. Once i go rebuff, you stand outside the town i buff at with the low level mage, so i then have 2 options.. #1 run past you and hope not to get anti magic or #2 kill you and possibly still get anti magic. After that you then put multiple mages throughout shinewood all level 130-140 to continue to attempt anti magics on me and if you do die, you are very aware i am also taking VP while defending my farmed waves. You also know that eventually i will have white skull and cannot party buff. This is your tactic to win, its sick and 100% abuse. Now stop responding on my post all you have done is waste my time, lie, and try to defend your precious method of abusing VP feeding in every area you can because you are too weak to win. Maybe instead of wasting so much time going back and forth about a topic that the entire server agree's is wrong and being abused and needs to be taken out the game and you are the only person still here arguing with me on it is because you are the abuser a.k.a the VP feeder himself. You should be practicing on your gameplay, and learn your class more. So maybe one day you will know how to win fights and not always have to result to a gameplay that not only hurts the servers population when you do it but also will create more fun fights and more population and active market. You of all people should see the big picture of wanting to grow the server and make changes to the server that will bring more players and motivate them to want to log on justac more because you are also the same person that farms this game 18+ hours a day all to turn around and sell all the gold you farm for Paypal. This is sick and should be against the rules, you are trying to live off this game not play it for fun.