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Title: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Withered on November 06, 2021, 08:55:29 PM
Dear JustAc staff,

I have a suggestion to make up for the charisma problem that Lv. 120s have.
How about adding charisma to the CF mobs, so charisma can be farmed in more places?

Best,
Withi
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Galadriel on November 06, 2021, 08:57:05 PM
+1
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Etanool on November 06, 2021, 09:00:59 PM
Add more bosses in HH that gives alot more charisma / drops carving of courage to promote more pvp.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: endorphine on November 06, 2021, 09:18:59 PM
That would be great idea, since i need trillions of charisma and not to even mention the gold for the HH skills only, we all lvled up till 90+ when there was no bg and charisma, its not like our fault now that we lack it, so for the mobs in cf to give it it will be rly great idea.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: burba_cz on November 06, 2021, 09:24:31 PM
here we go again
players who do nothing want to fk players who are fighting for bs boss
this server is so lame
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: endorphine on November 06, 2021, 09:37:40 PM
here we go again
players who do nothing want to fk players who are fighting for bs boss
this server is so lame
Oh rly ? what a smartass you are, you can get out of the suggestion if u do not like it, its easy to do it, for you it is fair to pay 500m for 1 coc ? It is not my fault i didn't get charisma till lv 94, if u have money to put up out here for buying your charisma someone do not wanna do the same thing and farming in bs is near to impossible due to the pk
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: burba_cz on November 06, 2021, 09:53:36 PM
I can give you suggestion: move your fat ass and go bs
Last few days I spent fighting for it with chinese gang  sometimes I stole them boss sometimes not, but at last I don't beg for free charisma, I worked for it
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: wixler on November 06, 2021, 11:10:30 PM
Dear JustAc staff,

I have a suggestion to make up for the charisma problem that Lv. 120s have.
How about adding charisma to the CF mobs, so charisma can be farmed in more places?

Best,
Withi

Nice Idea 

+1
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Knockout on November 06, 2021, 11:33:46 PM
Add more bosses in HH that gives alot more charisma / drops carving of courage to promote more pvp.

Good idea.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Knockout on November 06, 2021, 11:34:22 PM
Dear JustAc staff,

I have a suggestion to make up for the charisma problem that Lv. 120s have.
How about adding charisma to the CF mobs, so charisma can be farmed in more places?

Best,
Withi

Good Idea.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: ertugrul0748 on November 07, 2021, 12:16:56 AM
Everyone who has written on the subject agrees. Even if not in cf mobs, there should be an alternative to earning these charisma points for +120 level players. The asking price for the item called carving... is too high and the amount of gold available on the server is very small.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: ertugrul0748 on November 07, 2021, 12:20:34 AM
Even if it is not in cf, it can be considered in a different place, the amount of charisma points of skills can be reduced or more charisma points can be given for the killed character. For example, killing 1 character costs 50 or 100 charisma points.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: gabesz6 on November 07, 2021, 02:32:50 AM
1 time level up reward,or 10-15 hours of monitor botting....
Hopefully admins will make a right decision...

Lvl24 bot macro = 40x6 --> 240 charisma in 1 minute  -- > for a slighter HH build requirement u need 80-90ks

it would take 6.5 hours to make 93k charisma,to maybe have enough for a skillbuild for caster which doesnt involve all HH skills max. learnt usage...

6.5 hours boys...... and a -100% toa botting,do you really want this,or maybe ask admin to change his mind since this is literal bullshit?

(240 charisma comes on 1 minute with party buffs and proper pulling)

gl
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Etanool on November 07, 2021, 02:42:39 AM
1 time level up reward,or 10-15 hours of monitor botting....
Hopefully admins will make a right decision...

Lvl24 bot macro = 40x6 --> 240 charisma in 1 minute  -- > for a slighter HH build requirement u need 80-90ks

it would take 6.5 hours to make 93k charisma,to maybe have enough for a skillbuild for caster which doesnt involve all HH skills max. learnt usage...

6.5 hours boys...... and a -100% toa botting,do you really want this,or maybe ask admin to change his mind since this is literal bullshit?

(240 charisma comes on 1 minute with party buffs and proper pulling)

gl

We knew that HH skills would cost charisma. Just make a BS char and craft some carvings.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: pluto on November 07, 2021, 03:13:41 AM
I literally had to log in to reply on Granit's comment. You are pathetic. You made a lvl 80 ranger and transfered your not farmed but gold bought with pp gear and you think you are even funny. How do you expect new players to farm charisma when your gang and chinese gang are literally killing everyone in bs. Not everyone has 10 hours a day like you to play. Get back on the ground please. I feel sorry for you. Thats all.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Drennin on November 07, 2021, 04:46:09 AM
Not hard to farm carvings if you don't wanna do that then save the gold and buy it
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Etanool on November 07, 2021, 05:36:37 AM
I literally had to log in to reply on Granit's comment. You are pathetic. You made a lvl 80 ranger and transfered your not farmed but gold bought with pp gear and you think you are even funny. How do you expect new players to farm charisma when your gang and chinese gang are literally killing everyone in bs. Not everyone has 10 hours a day like you to play. Get back on the ground please. I feel sorry for you. Thats all.
Dont worry, i can sell you some carvings :)
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: D0gm4 on November 07, 2021, 06:29:15 AM
CF is maybe not the solution.

we all know about BS area.
At the previous version of Justac was an event with doubled charisma for a while, to kit the gap for 100+ chars, to earn enough charisma.

We know, Eclipse will bring us more solutions on this matter, i guess.
and for now, its just the 120+ chars, which will struggle on it.
I agree on the fact, it shouldnt be too easy, but a little push, for those 120+ would be welcomed.

its not that ppl ask for free stuff.

stay safe

Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Soundwave on November 07, 2021, 07:59:35 AM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Etanool on November 07, 2021, 08:05:29 AM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..
+1
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: gabesz6 on November 07, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..

If you want to have a challenge,you shouldnt think about your style of playing. You are investing pp ( a lot) to be able to buy this or that. But some players doesnt want to do this.

Go try to get your excellents by yourself with the gold you have already farmed for the refineries by yourself,then go and try to get the 100k charisma as well..
Not everyone has the same playstyle as you,that hes investing this much into a game,so think about this as well..
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Girei on November 07, 2021, 10:21:11 AM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..


+1
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: W4b on November 07, 2021, 10:24:13 AM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..

If you want to have a challenge,you shouldnt think about your style of playing. You are investing pp ( a lot) to be able to buy this or that. But some players doesnt want to do this.

Go try to get your excellents by yourself with the gold you have already farmed for the refineries by yourself,then go and try to get the 100k charisma as well..
Not everyone has the same playstyle as you,that hes investing this much into a game,so think about this as well..

(If you say : ok ill get all 4 excellents for some1 in 1 week to show,and you actually manage to do it without buying,ill give you 50$)


Excuse me but I have to write it,  seems you are one of most known beggers here. Chances for battlesquare were same when they opened it. Now when more people are on BS4-6 it's more easy to hunt boss on lower levels and get title. By sitting on forum and useless comments you won't get charisma fo sure.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: gabesz6 on November 07, 2021, 10:27:42 AM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..

If you want to have a challenge,you shouldnt think about your style of playing. You are investing pp ( a lot) to be able to buy this or that. But some players doesnt want to do this.

Go try to get your excellents by yourself with the gold you have already farmed for the refineries by yourself,then go and try to get the 100k charisma as well..
Not everyone has the same playstyle as you,that hes investing this much into a game,so think about this as well..

(If you say : ok ill get all 4 excellents for some1 in 1 week to show,and you actually manage to do it without buying,ill give you 50$)


Excuse me but I have to write it,  seems you are one of most known beggers here. Chances for battlesquare were same when they opened it. Now when more people are on BS4-6 it's more easy to hunt boss on lower levels and get title. By sitting on forum and useless comments you won't get charisma fo sure.

I have put the effort of excellent uniqs to get already. I have almost every excellent uniq which is needed for the new uniques later on,do you think how much time is it?
I will be the most happy if most of you will struggle during stage 3 to get any excellent uniq and cant be in stage 3,but I know already then you will QQ about it as well,so might just give up on trying to help people they do not know of.
I am making just a favor for you guys who doesnt even did shit to start it,because later on you will have a great sucking time getting them when suddenly everyone will realize oh i need exe podon and exe guardemish for example,and in stage 3 you will need to sit there days or weeks to get that.

This was around 150-200 hours of farming just EXCELLENTS,so think about it.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: xpd on November 07, 2021, 12:01:07 PM
+1
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: W4b on November 07, 2021, 12:15:03 PM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..

If you want to have a challenge,you shouldnt think about your style of playing. You are investing pp ( a lot) to be able to buy this or that. But some players doesnt want to do this.

Go try to get your excellents by yourself with the gold you have already farmed for the refineries by yourself,then go and try to get the 100k charisma as well..
Not everyone has the same playstyle as you,that hes investing this much into a game,so think about this as well..

(If you say : ok ill get all 4 excellents for some1 in 1 week to show,and you actually manage to do it without buying,ill give you 50$)


Excuse me but I have to write it,  seems you are one of most known beggers here. Chances for battlesquare were same when they opened it. Now when more people are on BS4-6 it's more easy to hunt boss on lower levels and get title. By sitting on forum and useless comments you won't get charisma fo sure.

I have put the effort of excellent uniqs to get already. I have almost every excellent uniq which is needed for the new uniques later on,do you think how much time is it?
I will be the most happy if most of you will struggle during stage 3 to get any excellent uniq and cant be in stage 3,but I know already then you will QQ about it as well,so might just give up on trying to help people they do not know of.
I am making just a favor for you guys who doesnt even did shit to start it,because later on you will have a great sucking time getting them when suddenly everyone will realize oh i need exe podon and exe guardemish for example,and in stage 3 you will need to sit there days or weeks to get that.

This was around 150-200 hours of farming just EXCELLENTS,so think about it.


Wow "I put effort for excellents so I want rest for free" nice nice
dude we all  put effort on it PART OF THE GAME
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: wixler on November 07, 2021, 05:29:32 PM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..

If you want to have a challenge,you shouldnt think about your style of playing. You are investing pp ( a lot) to be able to buy this or that. But some players doesnt want to do this.

Go try to get your excellents by yourself with the gold you have already farmed for the refineries by yourself,then go and try to get the 100k charisma as well..
Not everyone has the same playstyle as you,that hes investing this much into a game,so think about this as well..

(If you say : ok ill get all 4 excellents for some1 in 1 week to show,and you actually manage to do it without buying,ill give you 50$)


Excuse me but I have to write it,  seems you are one of most known beggers here. Chances for battlesquare were same when they opened it. Now when more people are on BS4-6 it's more easy to hunt boss on lower levels and get title. By sitting on forum and useless comments you won't get charisma fo sure.

I have put the effort of excellent uniqs to get already. I have almost every excellent uniq which is needed for the new uniques later on,do you think how much time is it?
I will be the most happy if most of you will struggle during stage 3 to get any excellent uniq and cant be in stage 3,but I know already then you will QQ about it as well,so might just give up on trying to help people they do not know of.
I am making just a favor for you guys who doesnt even did shit to start it,because later on you will have a great sucking time getting them when suddenly everyone will realize oh i need exe podon and exe guardemish for example,and in stage 3 you will need to sit there days or weeks to get that.

This was around 150-200 hours of farming just EXCELLENTS,so think about it.


Wow "I put effort for excellents so I want rest for free" nice nice
dude we all  put effort on it PART OF THE GAME

Isn't it great great how this thread went from suggestions to trolling in just a page or so?
Gotta love the diehard AL fans, they will take any opportunity to attack each other, lol.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: burba_cz on November 07, 2021, 05:39:43 PM
is different opinion trolling? disagree with someone then you are troll. what you wrote is trolling
don't worry, yourunion cried they can't get worm so they got this riddicoulus moonster boss
now you will get also what you want
fvck those who collected coC in BS! put it as your motto
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: pluto on November 07, 2021, 05:46:54 PM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..

If you want to have a challenge,you shouldnt think about your style of playing. You are investing pp ( a lot) to be able to buy this or that. But some players doesnt want to do this.

Go try to get your excellents by yourself with the gold you have already farmed for the refineries by yourself,then go and try to get the 100k charisma as well..
Not everyone has the same playstyle as you,that hes investing this much into a game,so think about this as well..

thank you
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: pluto on November 07, 2021, 05:48:55 PM
absolutly not... for the first time in Justac history there actually is a challange, even its a so stupid challange its about to get skills.. i feel its somehow kinda fun..

If you want to have a challenge,you shouldnt think about your style of playing. You are investing pp ( a lot) to be able to buy this or that. But some players doesnt want to do this.

Go try to get your excellents by yourself with the gold you have already farmed for the refineries by yourself,then go and try to get the 100k charisma as well..
Not everyone has the same playstyle as you,that hes investing this much into a game,so think about this as well..

(If you say : ok ill get all 4 excellents for some1 in 1 week to show,and you actually manage to do it without buying,ill give you 50$)


Excuse me but I have to write it,  seems you are one of most known beggers here. Chances for battlesquare were same when they opened it. Now when more people are on BS4-6 it's more easy to hunt boss on lower levels and get title. By sitting on forum and useless comments you won't get charisma fo sure.

I have put the effort of excellent uniqs to get already. I have almost every excellent uniq which is needed for the new uniques later on,do you think how much time is it?
I will be the most happy if most of you will struggle during stage 3 to get any excellent uniq and cant be in stage 3,but I know already then you will QQ about it as well,so might just give up on trying to help people they do not know of.
I am making just a favor for you guys who doesnt even did shit to start it,because later on you will have a great sucking time getting them when suddenly everyone will realize oh i need exe podon and exe guardemish for example,and in stage 3 you will need to sit there days or weeks to get that.

This was around 150-200 hours of farming just EXCELLENTS,so think about it.

they will just buy it from chinese for PP, thats what they do, buy everything and then shit on those who dont put money into game, small d*** complex id say
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: olvado56 on November 07, 2021, 07:05:23 PM
Its funny that people talk here about challenge, some see it as profit to invest on right away. etc
u can farm 100k CHA in half a day on new char, do it lvl 125 in another half a day. thats not a challenge is it ?

or just go ahead and spend tons of money on CoC, fight people who invested tons in their BS chars just to keep your KDA and name
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: pluto on November 07, 2021, 09:34:24 PM
Ure pathetic, why would anyone want to have a different name than the one theyve been using for years ?
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Cobra on November 07, 2021, 09:37:32 PM
charisma on CF mobs sounds like a good idea, especially for the lvl 120 + players
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: wixler on November 08, 2021, 06:10:57 AM
is different opinion trolling? disagree with someone then you are troll. what you wrote is trolling
don't worry, yourunion cried they can't get worm so they got this riddicoulus moonster boss
now you will get also what you want
fvck those who collected coC in BS! put it as your motto

Haha, Nice troll.
You prove my point with your combo qq/troll attack   :o
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Withered on November 08, 2021, 09:36:18 AM
I think the point is:
Which part of the playerbase do you want to favour?
In my opinion, this update favours solely the hardcore playerbase and returning/new players  whales.
For people that lvled to Lv 120+ before the update, there is a humongous time investment required to even learn the skills for this episode. So casual players, if they don't want to create a new character, are forced to spend the upcoming weeks in battle square (without being able to focus on other elements of the game, such as gold/unique farming, latria etc).
With the time investment of hardcore players this is solvable. Casual players however are prone to being frustrated.

It created a gap between those who lvled after the update and those who didn't.
To some that I spoke to it feels like a punishment for the more active, loyal playerbase.

What created the problem was a lack of transparency. In the end idc if the charisma is added to CF or anywhere else - I'm not asking for free shortcuts either. Just a solution that allows for getting somewhere without a few hundred players fighting over the same few bosses.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Elluin on November 08, 2021, 10:41:56 AM
I agree with Withereds comment.


I would have no issues with the new charisma costs, if we had known before the HH Update that it will be changed to what it is now. Going from 40-50k to 100k charisma in costs is a very big chance.  It feels like a bad joke to give TOAs at lvl 100 and after people have already leveled, just  double the charisma requirements.

Now a huge bottleneck was created.
BS is too small for the amount of things you need from it. You need combi stones AND charisma item. Also some players have already leveled buffers to 120.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Episode Guide on November 08, 2021, 01:43:39 PM
Charisma cost per stage before: 1120
Charisma cost per stage now (skill up bonuses applied): 1000
(Example from Human Knight character)

Players were aware that charsima would be needed for HH skills. Charsima will also be available in Eclipse.
Also after checking out, we can see that players get it fast. Even after 120lv. There are currently no plans to change anything.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Galadriel on November 08, 2021, 02:05:58 PM
Charisma cost per stage before: 1120
Charisma cost per stage now (skill up bonuses applied): 1000
(Example from Human Knight character)

Players were aware that charsima would be needed for HH skills. Charsima will also be available in Eclipse.
Also after checking out, we can see that players get it fast. Even after 120lv. There are currently no plans to change anything.
such a funny logic..
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Cobra on November 08, 2021, 03:25:04 PM
Ok, time to not buy ecoins anymore.
Thanks for great service and understanding.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: gabesz6 on November 08, 2021, 03:31:26 PM
Guess its time to donate for onlyfans and not for this anymore
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Grayblack on November 08, 2021, 03:46:44 PM
This community is so toxic, you never want to help the game itself or make improvements. You guys always work only for your own benefit and if something doesn't benefit you, you very rarely agree.
The game with the new server got a huge chance to be great again. But neither the admin nor the players are capable and/or deserving of it.
I'm playing on the server since the first day and have been loyal to it, and was here along with a handful of others when the majority got bored and stopped playing, or took a break, waiting for the second stage,
and I would like to say some things:
In the beginning ice/light/psn armors were what the majority of players were using. Tickets were rare, good elite stuff was even more rare. We spent a few months to get a good set with lvl 6 stones.
Then started trying to upgrade to elites.
We started fighting for the worm drops using these armors. Then overnight, tickets got changed and you made them craftable. Since elites are the best equipment you can get, you managed to the true and CF realms to useless 
Players have been fighting on worm and farming for tickets / stoned the true items and farmed for them.
Then suddenly realms were useless because of the ticket changes, and poof, all of the effort in farming and stoning realms went down the drain. This was more weeks of effort for some casual players. You didn't even announce that tickets will become so easy to get. Imagine buying realms and stoning them with lvl 6 stones because that is all you could afford, then go to sleep and wake up to your armor losing all its worth.
We knew that elites were the best way to go, but they were so expensive that for the majority realms were the go to. Making tickets more accessible was a good change, but it should have been communicated beforehand.

Then the HH update came, overnight, without a clear warning.
The new uniques like exc faren 3 slots are hard to get because the drop rate is quite low along with the refinery and you got to work weeks/months to get those. And you are going to use them for a short time because the new uniques
are coming, and when they do, you can throw them out too. Eclipse uniques will just be so much better. I know that I need the ex uniques for the new ones, but I wouldn't like to  use my 3 slotted one with wing+cloak+ulti just to make a new necklace that I'd have to stone again.

Another week, another update, the HH skills and charisma changes. With the charisma change you only punished the most loyal players of the community who leveled the first chance they got. There are several lvl 120s players
who are missing 100k charisma and a lot of them cant spend money or so much time for BS and farming.  This change to the charisma system should have been communicated beforehand, it is a huge thing to chance.
100k charisma just takes too long once you only get 2 charisma/mob. Creating a new char and farming out the charisma in BG, then going for 120 is much faster. But you can't transfer all your CC and you need to use scrolls to trade your uniques if you go this way, expenses that could and should have been avoided.
New players have a much easier time now than the ones who are here since the start of the server and wasted a lot of time to farm/buy/gain their levels and equipment.
why do you punish those players who been here since day 1? can you tell me a reason to keep playing if you waste a lot of time /money for things what will just become obsolete with the next update and without warning?
whats was the point of playing on first stage or atm on the second if you only punish the ones who did?

A month ago you told me, that the crashes are caused by the disable content. However, since then crashed have become more common. When the game launched we also had crashes every now and then,
but currently even if I load only 1 account and AFK with it, I will get a runtime error. In Latria and on Sieges it is even worse. We get organised, and when we would start fighting one third of the party crashes.
When is this getting fixed?

One other thing you told me was, that the game is going to implement updates to make life of the small guilds much better, to favour them. I haven't seen a single thing that was done for a solo player or a small guild.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: burba_cz on November 08, 2021, 04:02:56 PM
Ok, time to not buy ecoins anymore.


Funny words from a person who told me once that never spent a single $ for this server :D


@GM fix that runtime errors for god's sake
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Cobra on November 08, 2021, 04:35:25 PM
This community is so toxic, you never want to help the game itself or make improvements. You guys always work only for your own benefit and if something doesn't benefit you, you very rarely agree.
The game with the new server got a huge chance to be great again. But neither the admin nor the players are capable and/or deserving of it.
I'm playing on the server since the first day and have been loyal to it, and was here along with a handful of others when the majority got bored and stopped playing, or took a break, waiting for the second stage,
and I would like to say some things:
In the beginning ice/light/psn armors were what the majority of players were using. Tickets were rare, good elite stuff was even more rare. We spent a few months to get a good set with lvl 6 stones.
Then started trying to upgrade to elites.
We started fighting for the worm drops using these armors. Then overnight, tickets got changed and you made them craftable. Since elites are the best equipment you can get, you managed to the true and CF realms to useless 
Players have been fighting on worm and farming for tickets / stoned the true items and farmed for them.
Then suddenly realms were useless because of the ticket changes, and poof, all of the effort in farming and stoning realms went down the drain. This was more weeks of effort for some casual players. You didn't even announce that tickets will become so easy to get. Imagine buying realms and stoning them with lvl 6 stones because that is all you could afford, then go to sleep and wake up to your armor losing all its worth.
We knew that elites were the best way to go, but they were so expensive that for the majority realms were the go to. Making tickets more accessible was a good change, but it should have been communicated beforehand.

Then the HH update came, overnight, without a clear warning.
The new uniques like exc faren 3 slots are hard to get because the drop rate is quite low along with the refinery and you got to work weeks/months to get those. And you are going to use them for a short time because the new uniques
are coming, and when they do, you can throw them out too. Eclipse uniques will just be so much better. I know that I need the ex uniques for the new ones, but I wouldn't like to  use my 3 slotted one with wing+cloak+ulti just to make a new necklace that I'd have to stone again.

Another week, another update, the HH skills and charisma changes. With the charisma change you only punished the most loyal players of the community who leveled the first chance they got. There are several lvl 120s players
who are missing 100k charisma and a lot of them cant spend money or so much time for BS and farming.  This change to the charisma system should have been communicated beforehand, it is a huge thing to chance.
100k charisma just takes too long once you only get 2 charisma/mob. Creating a new char and farming out the charisma in BG, then going for 120 is much faster. But you can't transfer all your CC and you need to use scrolls to trade your uniques if you go this way, expenses that could and should have been avoided.
New players have a much easier time now than the ones who are here since the start of the server and wasted a lot of time to farm/buy/gain their levels and equipment.
why do you punish those players who been here since day 1? can you tell me a reason to keep playing if you waste a lot of time /money for things what will just become obsolete with the next update and without warning?
whats was the point of playing on first stage or atm on the second if you only punish the ones who did?

A month ago you told me, that the crashes are caused by the disable content. However, since then crashed have become more common. When the game launched we also had crashes every now and then,
but currently even if I load only 1 account and AFK with it, I will get a runtime error. In Latria and on Sieges it is even worse. We get organised, and when we would start fighting one third of the party crashes.
When is this getting fixed?

One other thing you told me was, that the game is going to implement updates to make life of the small guilds much better, to favour them. I haven't seen a single thing that was done for a solo player or a small guild.

perfectly said +1
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Galadriel on November 08, 2021, 06:16:51 PM
This community is so toxic, you never want to help the game itself or make improvements. You guys always work only for your own benefit and if something doesn't benefit you, you very rarely agree.
The game with the new server got a huge chance to be great again. But neither the admin nor the players are capable and/or deserving of it.
I'm playing on the server since the first day and have been loyal to it, and was here along with a handful of others when the majority got bored and stopped playing, or took a break, waiting for the second stage,
and I would like to say some things:
In the beginning ice/light/psn armors were what the majority of players were using. Tickets were rare, good elite stuff was even more rare. We spent a few months to get a good set with lvl 6 stones.
Then started trying to upgrade to elites.
We started fighting for the worm drops using these armors. Then overnight, tickets got changed and you made them craftable. Since elites are the best equipment you can get, you managed to the true and CF realms to useless 
Players have been fighting on worm and farming for tickets / stoned the true items and farmed for them.
Then suddenly realms were useless because of the ticket changes, and poof, all of the effort in farming and stoning realms went down the drain. This was more weeks of effort for some casual players. You didn't even announce that tickets will become so easy to get. Imagine buying realms and stoning them with lvl 6 stones because that is all you could afford, then go to sleep and wake up to your armor losing all its worth.
We knew that elites were the best way to go, but they were so expensive that for the majority realms were the go to. Making tickets more accessible was a good change, but it should have been communicated beforehand.

Then the HH update came, overnight, without a clear warning.
The new uniques like exc faren 3 slots are hard to get because the drop rate is quite low along with the refinery and you got to work weeks/months to get those. And you are going to use them for a short time because the new uniques
are coming, and when they do, you can throw them out too. Eclipse uniques will just be so much better. I know that I need the ex uniques for the new ones, but I wouldn't like to  use my 3 slotted one with wing+cloak+ulti just to make a new necklace that I'd have to stone again.

Another week, another update, the HH skills and charisma changes. With the charisma change you only punished the most loyal players of the community who leveled the first chance they got. There are several lvl 120s players
who are missing 100k charisma and a lot of them cant spend money or so much time for BS and farming.  This change to the charisma system should have been communicated beforehand, it is a huge thing to chance.
100k charisma just takes too long once you only get 2 charisma/mob. Creating a new char and farming out the charisma in BG, then going for 120 is much faster. But you can't transfer all your CC and you need to use scrolls to trade your uniques if you go this way, expenses that could and should have been avoided.
New players have a much easier time now than the ones who are here since the start of the server and wasted a lot of time to farm/buy/gain their levels and equipment.
why do you punish those players who been here since day 1? can you tell me a reason to keep playing if you waste a lot of time /money for things what will just become obsolete with the next update and without warning?
whats was the point of playing on first stage or atm on the second if you only punish the ones who did?

A month ago you told me, that the crashes are caused by the disable content. However, since then crashed have become more common. When the game launched we also had crashes every now and then,
but currently even if I load only 1 account and AFK with it, I will get a runtime error. In Latria and on Sieges it is even worse. We get organised, and when we would start fighting one third of the party crashes.
When is this getting fixed?

One other thing you told me was, that the game is going to implement updates to make life of the small guilds much better, to favour them. I haven't seen a single thing that was done for a solo player or a small guild.
well said, +1
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: S1ky on November 08, 2021, 06:32:54 PM
This community is so toxic, you never want to help the game itself or make improvements. You guys always work only for your own benefit and if something doesn't benefit you, you very rarely agree.
The game with the new server got a huge chance to be great again. But neither the admin nor the players are capable and/or deserving of it.
I'm playing on the server since the first day and have been loyal to it, and was here along with a handful of others when the majority got bored and stopped playing, or took a break, waiting for the second stage,
and I would like to say some things:
In the beginning ice/light/psn armors were what the majority of players were using. Tickets were rare, good elite stuff was even more rare. We spent a few months to get a good set with lvl 6 stones.
Then started trying to upgrade to elites.
We started fighting for the worm drops using these armors. Then overnight, tickets got changed and you made them craftable. Since elites are the best equipment you can get, you managed to the true and CF realms to useless 
Players have been fighting on worm and farming for tickets / stoned the true items and farmed for them.
Then suddenly realms were useless because of the ticket changes, and poof, all of the effort in farming and stoning realms went down the drain. This was more weeks of effort for some casual players. You didn't even announce that tickets will become so easy to get. Imagine buying realms and stoning them with lvl 6 stones because that is all you could afford, then go to sleep and wake up to your armor losing all its worth.
We knew that elites were the best way to go, but they were so expensive that for the majority realms were the go to. Making tickets more accessible was a good change, but it should have been communicated beforehand.

Then the HH update came, overnight, without a clear warning.
The new uniques like exc faren 3 slots are hard to get because the drop rate is quite low along with the refinery and you got to work weeks/months to get those. And you are going to use them for a short time because the new uniques
are coming, and when they do, you can throw them out too. Eclipse uniques will just be so much better. I know that I need the ex uniques for the new ones, but I wouldn't like to  use my 3 slotted one with wing+cloak+ulti just to make a new necklace that I'd have to stone again.

Another week, another update, the HH skills and charisma changes. With the charisma change you only punished the most loyal players of the community who leveled the first chance they got. There are several lvl 120s players
who are missing 100k charisma and a lot of them cant spend money or so much time for BS and farming.  This change to the charisma system should have been communicated beforehand, it is a huge thing to chance.
100k charisma just takes too long once you only get 2 charisma/mob. Creating a new char and farming out the charisma in BG, then going for 120 is much faster. But you can't transfer all your CC and you need to use scrolls to trade your uniques if you go this way, expenses that could and should have been avoided.
New players have a much easier time now than the ones who are here since the start of the server and wasted a lot of time to farm/buy/gain their levels and equipment.
why do you punish those players who been here since day 1? can you tell me a reason to keep playing if you waste a lot of time /money for things what will just become obsolete with the next update and without warning?
whats was the point of playing on first stage or atm on the second if you only punish the ones who did?

A month ago you told me, that the crashes are caused by the disable content. However, since then crashed have become more common. When the game launched we also had crashes every now and then,
but currently even if I load only 1 account and AFK with it, I will get a runtime error. In Latria and on Sieges it is even worse. We get organised, and when we would start fighting one third of the party crashes.
When is this getting fixed?

One other thing you told me was, that the game is going to implement updates to make life of the small guilds much better, to favour them. I haven't seen a single thing that was done for a solo player or a small guild.

Perfectly said, for me its the lack of communication, if ONLY had they told the player base each skill would cost 3000 charisma per rank, I can guarantee that almost no one would have rushed lvl 120+ and would have instead used a Toa- on lower levels to get enough charisma.
But it seems like it's a constant problem with this admin and GM, there is absolutely 0 communication on what's about to happen and what is changing(To the point that the GM himself will ask players about stuff that he has no idea of, lmao). I'm still wondering why they released HH area and the possibility of going to a higher level without releasing the HH skill tree at the same time and/or disclosing that the costs for each upgrade are ridiculously higher. With the xp rates like this, you wont ever get enough charisma before hitting 120. Forcing players to basically buy toa minus either by CC or gold just seems like a greedy strat, or you will have players botting in HH now because YOUR decisions in game developing lead to it. Some of us don't want to be forced to make a new character and lose the stacks of 100 combis that are BOUND(again, greed) to our old characters just so we can learn our HH skills.
So soon enough, players that have been here from day 1 will get outclassed by new arrivals because they had a good chance to farm Charisma.
And that dumb argument of "Players knew HH skills cost charisma" Lmao,quite possibly the dumbest argument, yeah.. we knew they costed in total about 40k for a max HH skill tree(most of that being just for the 111 skill, the others being considerably cheaper), not 120k.
Start telling your playerbase what the f is happening instead of just coming out with stuff out of nowhere. We barely get updates on what has been changing, we just have to look at skill trees and have to figure it out by ourselves. Can you guys not write patch notes? Or shall we start doing that for you as well? Because clearly you don't play or have any understanding of the game you are developing and hosting.
Guess all of the 120's who don't want to make new characters to have enough charisma have to wait until eclipse update to get more than 2 charisma per mob? Aight then.
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: wixler on November 08, 2021, 07:02:39 PM
Charisma cost per stage before: 1120
Charisma cost per stage now (skill up bonuses applied): 1000 3000
(Example from Human Knight character)

Players were aware that charsima would be needed for HH skills. Charsima will also be available in Eclipse.
Also after checking out, we can see that players get it fast. Even after 120lv. There are currently no plans to change anything.

Corrected
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: S1ky on November 09, 2021, 12:07:49 AM
Charisma cost per stage before: 1120
Charisma cost per stage now (skill up bonuses applied): 1000 3000
(Example from Human Knight character)

Players were aware that charsima would be needed for HH skills. Charsima will also be available in Eclipse.
Also after checking out, we can see that players get it fast. Even after 120lv. There are currently no plans to change anything.

Corrected

I also saw that, wtf does he mean 1000?
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: unds on November 09, 2021, 12:20:55 AM
10 HH skills 15 stages each gives 150 stages but you have to use charisma for 5 stages each skill, i'm correct? or to unlock more than 5 stages also I need charisma?
is it 15 stages or 20 max for each skill? because drvx shows 20
Title: Re: Add Charisma to CF mobs
Post by: Cobra on November 09, 2021, 02:52:56 PM
Ok, time to not buy ecoins anymore.


Funny words from a person who told me once that never spent a single $ for this server :D


@GM fix that runtime errors for god's sake


True, i haven't, until recently when i decided to support the server with donations, said to myself that this time will be different.
Apparently some things never change, service quality is still awful, server full of ancient unsolved bugs and crashes, unstable, often closed, literaly unplayable, changes over night without a notice, no transparency, no communication, gm's extremely rude and unpolite towards players, changes that makes no sense and the list can go on and on.
Just think about it, server is on since 2014, they earned so much money from players this whole time, however this is not being reflected at all in what we get in return.
So yeah, i am done donating until some serious changes will happen.